Phuturetone GR-8

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GRRRRRRR!
11898 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:09 pm

That's weird. Sounds like maybe an OS problem. When was the last time you restarted your PC? Or updated W10?
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KVRian
1422 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from France

Post Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:28 pm

Usual Windows thing... :D
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GRRRRRRR!
11898 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:18 pm

That kind of thing never happens to me. Any time I have any problem with anything, a restart is all it takes to fix it.
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KVRian
505 posts since 30 Jan, 2009 from UK

Post Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:52 pm

GR-8 gets my first vote in the competition, looks good and sounds good, great work Sasha!

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KVRAF
2740 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:08 am

DJErmac wrote:
Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:56 pm
I just tried to save a new preset and got a Windows error message saying I can't write datas in this folder (the preset is saved correctly though). I assume this is what caused the initial crash. The presets are saved in my Documents folder (Documents/VST3 Presets/Phuturetone/GR-8/...). No crash this time.
You using it in Cubase ? Run Cubase as an administrator and you shouldn't get errors like that.

Steinberg would probably say they fixed this in V11 :dog:
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KVRAF
2740 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:10 am

OK my 2penneth, When I first used it it was a CPU killer, but Bones thankfully pointed out the update (Was only following in instruments main forum)

Now its a lot less CPU intensive, and if you could get it lower again, I can see GR-8 becoming my mainstay for some certain sounds. I love it's workflow, thats what's really grabbed my attention, just seems to click with my fked up brain.

Congratulations on this synth, I think its a really awesome piece of work.
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KVRian
1422 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from France

Post Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:30 am

LeVzi wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:08 am
DJErmac wrote:
Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:56 pm
I just tried to save a new preset and got a Windows error message saying I can't write datas in this folder (the preset is saved correctly though). I assume this is what caused the initial crash. The presets are saved in my Documents folder (Documents/VST3 Presets/Phuturetone/GR-8/...). No crash this time.
You using it in Cubase ? Run Cubase as an administrator and you shouldn't get errors like that.

Steinberg would probably say they fixed this in V11 :dog:
I do run Cubase as an administrator. :shrug:

I also own v11, just don’t like it...
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KVRist
428 posts since 28 Jul, 2006

Post Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:12 am

As someone who would spend a large chunk of money on a really nice CPU before I would buy any new plugins, I hope that oversampling can be made as an option in a future release. Sound quality is king, but having the option available to turn it on or off is good for people with less powerful CPUs.

KVRist
46 posts since 28 Aug, 2011 from Belgrade, Serbia

Post Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:34 am

DJErmac wrote:
Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:56 pm
I just tried to save a new preset and got a Windows error message saying I can't write datas in this folder (the preset is saved correctly though). I assume this is what caused the initial crash. The presets are saved in my Documents folder (Documents/VST3 Presets/Phuturetone/GR-8/...). No crash this time.
Have you tried to make a backup of the presets folder (just rename it, i.e. GR-8x) and to reinstall the plugin? Maybe that will help.

KVRer
3 posts since 1 Jun, 2021

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:42 am

@Sasha: Just checked the updated version - my quick test project eating 30-40% CPU requiers now less than 20%. Guess this is something that can be called optimisation :)
Already voted now with GR-8 as my personal favourite. Really useful and inspiring right now! Nonetheless, hope you will find some time in the future to make good things even better (guess I said this before ;) )

KVRist
46 posts since 28 Aug, 2011 from Belgrade, Serbia

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:49 am

New update:

v1.0.4 - 2021-07-22:
  • Replaced arpeggiator module with a newer module.
  • Updated About screen.
I was trying for full three days to fix the arpeggiator, it simply refuses to work. I succeed in making it work in Reason, but Live is ignoring the retrigger signal, so if notes are closely side-by-side, it repeats the first note of the previous arp pattern. In Garage band, I can't even tell what is wrong.

The solution for the correct first note in an arp sequence is lame, a user needs to make sure there's a gap between the notes. I'm thinking about removing the arp from the synth. What do you think?

Thanks,
Sasha

KVRist
46 posts since 28 Aug, 2011 from Belgrade, Serbia

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:53 am

linus_369 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:42 am
@Sasha: Just checked the updated version - my quick test project eating 30-40% CPU requiers now less than 20%. Guess this is something that can be called optimisation :)
Already voted now with GR-8 as my personal favourite. Really useful and inspiring right now! Nonetheless, hope you will find some time in the future to make good things even better (guess I said this before ;) )
Thank you very much Linus!

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KVRian
542 posts since 11 Mar, 2010

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:55 am

Phuturetone wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:49 am
New update:

v1.0.4 - 2021-07-22:
  • Replaced arpeggiator module with a newer module.
  • Updated About screen.
I was trying for full three days to fix the arpeggiator, it simply refuses to work. I succeed in making it work in Reason, but Live is ignoring the retrigger signal, so if notes are closely side-by-side, it repeats the first note of the previous arp pattern. In Garage band, I can't even tell what is wrong.

The solution for the correct first note in an arp sequence is lame, a user needs to make sure there's a gap between the notes. I'm thinking about removing the arp from the synth. What do you think?

Thanks,
Sasha
Oh no no no, I'm already using it in a song! :D

KVRist
236 posts since 27 Aug, 2015 from Paris, France

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:47 am

Phuturetone wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:49 am
New update:

v1.0.4 - 2021-07-22:
  • Replaced arpeggiator module with a newer module.
  • Updated About screen.
I was trying for full three days to fix the arpeggiator, it simply refuses to work. I succeed in making it work in Reason, but Live is ignoring the retrigger signal, so if notes are closely side-by-side, it repeats the first note of the previous arp pattern. In Garage band, I can't even tell what is wrong.

The solution for the correct first note in an arp sequence is lame, a user needs to make sure there's a gap between the notes. I'm thinking about removing the arp from the synth. What do you think?

Thanks,
Sasha
Yeah, I've just tried the update, the arp is much better than the previous ones, but still unusable in its current state, for me at least. If it's for a long sequence with a sustained chord, it's ok, but as soon as notes change, the retriggering fails, and it's hard to fix in Live, even by avoiding overlapping notes, because then you can hear the gap between the notes.

I would say that if the arp really can't be fixed, it would be better to remove it (sorry for your song Sinisterbr lol). IMHO, a broken feature can do more harm to a plugin than a missing one. Just my 2 cents :wink:
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KVRian
542 posts since 11 Mar, 2010

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:16 am

I'll backup the latest version then (it's working flawlessly so far, anyway), just for my use. Hahah

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