Synthmaster 2.9 and Synthmaster One Comparison

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DavidCarlyon
KVRist
463 posts since 17 Mar, 2018

Post Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:58 pm

I just tried sm1 finally. It sounds amazing. Are the wavetables different? If i recall we are still stuck with the 16-waveforms type in sm2?
It seems really bizzare to me that sm2 hasnt been properly updated in ages. Was one of my staples but i cant use it anymore. Preset system sucks, always having UI problems (it wont switch sizes when i ask, same with skins)
Shame cos i freaking love this synth so hard. USing sm1, it reminded me of why i love sm2 so much.

Dont really know what to do. I didnt really wanna buy sm1 - o have sooo many synths and really i just wanted sm2 to get modernised a bit. But if that isnt happening, ill probably just get sm1.
I do really like the quick workflow and nice layout / gui. And to me i swear it sounds better (could be wavetables)

Cheers all!

zzz00m
KVRAF
1960 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Re: Synthmaster 2.9 and Synthmaster One Comparison

Post Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:45 am

DavidCarlyon wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:58 pm
If i recall we are still stuck with the 16-waveforms type in sm2?
It seems really bizzare to me that sm2 hasnt been properly updated in ages. Was one of my staples but i cant use it anymore. Preset system sucks, always having UI problems (it wont switch sizes when i ask, same with skins)
Shame cos i freaking love this synth so hard. USing sm1, it reminded me of why i love sm2 so much.

Take a look at SM 2.9.6 for wavetables. The KV331 Audio soundset "Big Tone Tableworks" makes good use of the wavetable feature.
KV331 Audio has updated their all-around software synthesizer SynthMaster to version 2.9 with new wavetable features, new factory presets, in-app-store, internationalization support and critical fixes.

This update brings the following new features to SynthMaster:

Wavetable synthesis: SynthMaster now supports wavetables with up to 256 waveforms. Users can easily import wavetables by dragging and dropping files/folders on to the wavetable display. The wavetable display can show wavetables in 4 different ways: 2D Waveform, 2D Spectrum, 3D Waveform and 3D Spectrum. The factory waveforms and wavetables in SynthMaster One are also included in SynthMaster 2.9.
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ubailey
KVRist
87 posts since 4 Apr, 2017

Re: Synthmaster 2.9 and Synthmaster One Comparison

Post Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:46 am

When is SM3 coming out?
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kv331
KVRAF
5846 posts since 14 Nov, 2006 from Ankara, Turkey

Re: Synthmaster 2.9 and Synthmaster One Comparison

Post Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:51 am

mevla wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:14 am
One thing for sure is that Synthmaster One did not use the same UI platform. I see it here under windows VST emulation in Linux as the One UI flickers at each movement of the mouse whereas Synthmaster2 UI is stable as it can be.
They actually do use the same UI framework, based on VSTGUI 3.6
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KVRAF
5846 posts since 14 Nov, 2006 from Ankara, Turkey

Re: Synthmaster 2.9 and Synthmaster One Comparison

Post Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:52 am

ubailey wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:46 am
When is SM3 coming out?
Will take a while, since I am swamped with multiple projects :(
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kv331
KVRAF
5846 posts since 14 Nov, 2006 from Ankara, Turkey

Re: Synthmaster 2.9 and Synthmaster One Comparison

Post Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:59 am

DavidCarlyon wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:58 pm
It seems really bizzare to me that sm2 hasnt been properly updated in ages. Was one of my staples but i cant use it anymore. Preset system sucks, always having UI problems (it wont switch sizes when i ask, same with skins)
Hi David

Thanks for your feedback! Regarding the preset system, what would you like to see improved ?

Thanks!
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masterhiggins
KVRAF
2128 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota

Re: Synthmaster 2.9 and Synthmaster One Comparison

Post Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:44 am

kv331 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:52 am
ubailey wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:46 am
When is SM3 coming out?
Will take a while, since I am swamped with multiple projects :(
Which projects are those?!? :wheee:

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bharris22
KVRAF
1590 posts since 3 Mar, 2010

Re: Synthmaster 2.9 and Synthmaster One Comparison

Post Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:14 am

Are any of the presets in Synthmaster One the same as those in Synthmaster 2? I assume not, but would like to be sure.

kv331
KVRAF
5846 posts since 14 Nov, 2006 from Ankara, Turkey

Re: Synthmaster 2.9 and Synthmaster One Comparison

Post Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:27 am

bharris22 wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:14 am
Are any of the presets in Synthmaster One the same as those in Synthmaster 2? I assume not, but would like to be sure.
There can be similar ones, as the same sound designers did the sounds for both synths.
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zzz00m
KVRAF
1960 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Re: Synthmaster 2.9 and Synthmaster One Comparison

Post Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:49 am

bharris22 wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:14 am
Are any of the presets in Synthmaster One the same as those in Synthmaster 2? I assume not, but would like to be sure.
I think SM One might have some similar sounds, but none have jumped right out at me. I think it sounds unique and different.

For example, the full wavetable oscillators and zero delay feedback filters in SM One were not available in SM 2 until around version 2.8, so all of the factory presets in SM 2, and most of the expansions,were designed before the oscillators and filters got that upgrade, using the old design.

To hear some SM 2 presets using the full wavetable features, try the BigTone expansion "BigTone Tableworks01". Also the "BigTone Analog Basics" and "BigTone Analog Basics02" show off the ZDF filters.

Also, SM One is a single layer synth, vs. two layers in SM 2. But in spite of that, SM One still sounds really f'n good.

I think that the sound designers really demonstrated the capabilities of the new oscillators and filters well in the SM One presets. I find it impossible to audition the presets in there without stumbling on many inspiring sounds. Don't forget to check the mod wheel and other controllers for many expressive modulations in some presets!

I look forward to SM v3 and bringing all these presets together!
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bharris22
KVRAF
1590 posts since 3 Mar, 2010

Re: Synthmaster 2.9 and Synthmaster One Comparison

Post Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:29 am

Thank you!

godly
KVRian
847 posts since 22 May, 2013 from Gent, Belgium

Re: Synthmaster 2.9 and Synthmaster One Comparison

Post Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:06 am

kv331 wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:55 am
SynthMaster is currently a 2 layer synth with more advanced oscillators + modulation sources. but hopefuly with v3.0, it'll have up to 16 layers. it's gonna have a "flexible" architecture where you can add modulation sources, layers, effects, etc. This is something both SynthMaster 1 and 2 are lacking :) oh, it'll have a wavetable editor + granular synthesis as well!
Post from 2017. Is there any progress here? I'm really looking forward to SM3, if it will have the same low cpu usage and so many options, it will be super.
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