As if you have any idea what that is in the first place, ass shaker.
Boomshakaboom, here comes the doom.
Yes because presets, e.g, a brass sound, can be concieved on par with any loops containing several instruments playing chords and melodies, drums and perc never made by yourself. Precisely the same, right?
Your pretense at replying to something we can all see, because you quoted it using the quotes function, is idiotic and pathetic.telecode wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:44 pmYour assumption of what and how people are as should experience a piece of music is highly snob and assumes they are you. A human experiences a piece of music in many different ways. A EDM fan at a EDM events is there to experience the beats and the euphoria of the crowd. They aren't going to sit in a corner and focus on the technical aspects of what they are hearing. They are still experiencing the music.jancivil wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:49 pm Using loops is going to result in a lack of flow for most of what we're going to experience as a piece of music. I'm not going to try and speak to very experimental use of material using cutting, stretching, re-ordering in a more radical sense, as beyond my intent.
But for instance, I have tried and use the phrases in EWQL RA, which are legit musical phrases in the idiom but they're out of all context and it's not designed so that anything really follows. It would be better if there were little gestures which make sense *typically* (cadences) along with an intelligent solo legato script. Or like in jazz, you do provide 'doits' and 'falls'; in classical percussion, 'upbeats' and rolls.
Construction kits sort of approach, you can do too much and it's not giving the user more, really. So you can abstract that argument out, you're trying to copy/paste someone else's idea of what is useful generically: where is the line of thought? What is the actual idea? Are you Dr Frankenstein building a very unhappy monster who would rather not have been started.
I think they're really made for a singer-songwriter to get a song started very generically. I don't think trying that as your own work is a good m.o. For you as a person to begin with. Music is so rich and you're trying to miss out. (universal 'you', NB)
where there is ren, stimpy is not far behind, eh?IncarnateX wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:45 pmAs if you have any idea what that is in the first place, ass shaker.
Boomshakaboom, here comes the doom.
no. what i mean that loops allow you to same time and focus on other things you want to work on. same as buying pre-packaged presets for VSTs. but nice derail attempt.IncarnateX wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:00 pmYes because presets, e.g, a brass sound, can be concieved on par with any loops containing several instruments playing chords and melodies, drums and perc never made by yourself. Precisely the same, right?
I don’t think so, really. Maybe what you meant was autoarranger keyboards with premade shit too? In that case, you are right there are some resemblance using autoarranger presets and using loops, though in the first case you can still play your own melodies and chords and then the comparison is not worth much at the end of the day.
Or maybe tou just meant arppegiated presets? Yes there could be some resemblance but even arppegiations can be personalized if they can be programmed or you just are firm to play an arpeggiator. I am splendid. So says my ass and therefore it is true, just like in your own case.
Or maybe you just do not really know what you mean at the end of the day but just let anything our that comes to ass?
I bet on the latter
/sic
your high brow snob attitude does unsettle me and does of me make me a lack of words to describe thy lamer that you truly are yourself to be. or, you pretensions snob of a soddy snot you..jancivil wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:03 pmYour pretense at replying to something we can all see, because you quoted it using the quotes function, is idiotic and pathetic.telecode wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:44 pmYour assumption of what and how people are as should experience a piece of music is highly snob and assumes they are you. A human experiences a piece of music in many different ways. A EDM fan at a EDM events is there to experience the beats and the euphoria of the crowd. They aren't going to sit in a corner and focus on the technical aspects of what they are hearing. They are still experiencing the music.jancivil wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:49 pm Using loops is going to result in a lack of flow for most of what we're going to experience as a piece of music. I'm not going to try and speak to very experimental use of material using cutting, stretching, re-ordering in a more radical sense, as beyond my intent.
But for instance, I have tried and use the phrases in EWQL RA, which are legit musical phrases in the idiom but they're out of all context and it's not designed so that anything really follows. It would be better if there were little gestures which make sense *typically* (cadences) along with an intelligent solo legato script. Or like in jazz, you do provide 'doits' and 'falls'; in classical percussion, 'upbeats' and rolls.
Construction kits sort of approach, you can do too much and it's not giving the user more, really. So you can abstract that argument out, you're trying to copy/paste someone else's idea of what is useful generically: where is the line of thought? What is the actual idea? Are you Dr Frankenstein building a very unhappy monster who would rather not have been started.
I think they're really made for a singer-songwriter to get a song started very generically. I don't think trying that as your own work is a good m.o. For you as a person to begin with. Music is so rich and you're trying to miss out. (universal 'you', NB)
I talked about my own experience using something which is de facto the use of loops. I posited a question regarding flow which is based in me being a composer for ≊ 40 yrs. I said exactly nothing to the effect of telling people how they should experience anything. More desperation and trying to change what is said into something you can shitpost about.
There is literally nothing to suggest even I "sit in a corner and focus on the technical aspects". You seem to quite resent there is someone you see posting who HAS some ability to talk about a technical aspect, but AGAIN you're just making shit up.
"the euphoria of the crowd" is not experiencing music anyway.
That's your Ray-bans, that isdonkey tugger wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:13 pmThis thread reminds me more of;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UMedd03JCA
See that flying cock? That's you that is.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:23 pmThat's your Ray-bans, that isdonkey tugger wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:13 pmThis thread reminds me more of;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UMedd03JCA
donkey tugger wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:28 pmSee that flying cock? That's you that is.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:23 pmThat's your Ray-bans, that isdonkey tugger wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:13 pmThis thread reminds me more of;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UMedd03JCA
You must be joking my dear. You pranced in here and derailed this thread into turdland el grande.. your usual series of aimless attacks that achieve nothing. But what do I care. It's not like it's illegal to act like a duufus on the internet.
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