Yes but WHEN to retrigg? That time point can be determined only by quantizing the record-stop point- and that is buffer lenght quantizationinsertpizhere wrote:when retriggered, it'll always start in the right place. it would work kind of like the LFO, but with recorded midi as the "waveform", if that makes sense.
piz midi plugins (windows/linux/mac)
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- KVRian
- 514 posts since 2 May, 2004
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2237 posts since 12 Nov, 2002 from swordfish
don't worry, i wouldn't make this without allowing CC control of the record toggle. you would select the quantization step, not just a fixed length. it could have both modes, but i would have more use for the midi-controlled one.
wrongtastic, baby
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2237 posts since 12 Nov, 2002 from swordfish
yes, start and stop point would be automatically quantized to make the whole recording fit into one bar (or two, or whatever).maki wrote:Yes but WHEN to retrigg? That time point can be determined only by quantizing the record-stop point- and that is buffer lenght quantizationinsertpizhere wrote:when retriggered, it'll always start in the right place. it would work kind of like the LFO, but with recorded midi as the "waveform", if that makes sense.
at that point, i could even add time-based midi effects (swing/shuffle/groove) and it would make musical sense.
wrongtastic, baby
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
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- KVRian
- 514 posts since 2 May, 2004
Wow, this plugin is going to be bigger than Zyklus!!!!insertpizhere wrote:yes, start and stop point would be automatically quantized to make the whole recording fit into one bar (or two, or whatever).maki wrote:Yes but WHEN to retrigg? That time point can be determined only by quantizing the record-stop point- and that is buffer lenght quantizationinsertpizhere wrote:when retriggered, it'll always start in the right place. it would work kind of like the LFO, but with recorded midi as the "waveform", if that makes sense.
at that point, i could even add time-based midi effects (swing/shuffle/groove) and it would make musical sense.
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- KVRAF
- 5629 posts since 22 Sep, 2005
Ok I see very true. Just figured it would be easier on Piz tis..maki wrote:...How can we know when inspiration strikes and how long it wil last? It should be some kind of a counter that counts bars and beats for us WHILE we record and when we stop recording(not by stinking mouse but with sustain pedal of course because our right hand is still on a more usefull place- a midi keyboard!) counter stops and buffer lenght gets quantizied on nearest bar or beat. At the same time recorded loop is assigned to a trigger or a key or whatever controll-message.
maki wrote:I see skies of blue..... clouds of white
Bright blessed days....dark sacred nights
And I think to myself .....what a wonderful world.

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- KVRAF
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- 2237 posts since 12 Nov, 2002 from swordfish
actually, i forgot to upload that one. http://thepiz.org/xt/midiSimpleLFO%2020071024.zipinsertpizhere wrote:let me know if you have any suggestions.soma wrote:simple midi lfo looks great. haven't tested though.
and keep in mind that you can automate the parameters with other LFOs... in the last update, the phase is updated continuously, and the control goes from -180 to +180. modulating the phase, offset, and amplitude should be a lot of fun.
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wrongtastic, baby
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
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- KVRAF
- 2427 posts since 16 Jun, 2005 from Somewhere, NV
The file you were looking for, http://www.thepiz.org/xt/midiSimpleLFO20071024.zip, has probably been stolen by the robots of doom. Try searching the site here:
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Alternatively, you may destroy the universe.
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- KVRAF
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- 2237 posts since 12 Nov, 2002 from swordfish
sorry about that. i fixed more bugs since then anyway, so here's an actual better version: http://thepiz.org/xt/midiSimpleLFO%2020071024.zip
wrongtastic, baby
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
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- KVRian
- 943 posts since 8 Feb, 2005
insertpizhere wrote:here's an actual better version: http://thepiz.org/xt/midiSimpleLFO%2020071024.zip
this is great...thanks so much again...and again...
you seem to be reading my thoughts since you changed two things i was going to suggest you:
- instant phase change while on beat sync mode
- free running mode shouldnt be retriggered by midi notes
you said before that it wasnt working in ext v1.41 . here it works very well in v1.41 but that is in the vsti / vstfx version. still havent tried it in the standalone version. the issue with opening the plugs gui and modulation stopping seems to have gone away....
i still have 2 suggestions though :
- after using the lfo in "real" situations ive came to the conclusion that i would still need slower modulations...
32 bars
- the triangle waveform is a bit weird ... its not like a sine equivalent. i wish it was like the sine ...phase wise. since one pics is worth a thousand words;

so...whats the ideia behind this?...the ideia is to be able to change between sine and triangle (to see what fits best for the desired effect) and not having to make phase adjustments.
if any of this suggestions goes against your original concepts ...just ignore them...
its the second time i try the lfo...and its the second time i go to bed at 10:00 am .... hours and hours of pleasure, listening to beautiful modulations....even if midi only allows 127 values...
- KVRist
- 443 posts since 13 Feb, 2006
midipads: is it possible to add cc off aven for the x value. it's useful to control buffer override or xy based effects, the cc off sets the origina position when the pa is not touched.
if possible, add midi learn for midi external triggers.
if possible, add midi learn for midi external triggers.
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- KVRAF
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- 2237 posts since 12 Nov, 2002 from swordfish
what i meant was that meters other than 4/4 aren't detected in energyXT's sequencer. other than that, all my plugins should work fine in 1.4.1 since that's mainly where i test them.hcv242 wrote:you said before that it wasnt working in ext v1.41 . here it works very well in v1.41 but that is in the vsti / vstfx version. still havent tried it in the standalone version. the issue with opening the plugs gui and modulation stopping seems to have gone away....
no problem. any others? i'll throw in 24 bars just in case.- after using the lfo in "real" situations ive came to the conclusion that i would still need slower modulations...
32 bars. i also miss some freqs: 12 bars, 6 bars, 1.5 bars and 1.5 beats ...
yes, i've been meaning to change that. thanks for reminding me.- the triangle waveform is a bit weird ... its not like a sine equivalent. i wish it was like the sine ...phase wise. since one pics is worth a thousand words;
http://thepiz.org/xt/midiSimpleLFO%2020071025.zip
the only other thing that bothers me is that if you start the LFO in the middle of a bar ( or whatever the selected frequency), the phase won't be right until the next bar. i need to make it always start in the right place. then i think this will be done, and i will have figured out beat-syncing so i'll be ready to start on the midi looper.
wrongtastic, baby
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2237 posts since 12 Nov, 2002 from swordfish
i've been planning to add this.-PIKU- wrote:midipads: is it possible to add cc off aven for the x value. it's useful to control buffer override or xy based effects, the cc off sets the origina position when the pa is not touched.
i should add learn for the trigger and for the x-cc. i think i'll do it with keyboard modifiers (like shift-middle-click for trigger, alt-middle-click for x-cc) and menu items (maybe "Learn Note/Y-CC", "Learn X-CC", "Learn Trigger").if possible, add midi learn for midi external triggers.
also, would it be better if the menus stayed open instead of closing after editing one value? then you'd have to click outside of it or press escape to close it. i think it would be better.
wrongtastic, baby
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
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- KVRAF
- 2427 posts since 16 Jun, 2005 from Somewhere, NV
midi16pads is becoming an editor for my padKONTROL.insertpizhere wrote:i've been planning to add this.-PIKU- wrote:midipads: is it possible to add cc off aven for the x value. it's useful to control buffer override or xy based effects, the cc off sets the origina position when the pa is not touched.
i should add learn for the trigger and for the x-cc. i think i'll do it with keyboard modifiers (like shift-middle-click for trigger, alt-middle-click for x-cc) and menu items (maybe "Learn Note/Y-CC", "Learn X-CC", "Learn Trigger").if possible, add midi learn for midi external triggers.
- KVRist
- 443 posts since 13 Feb, 2006
adding "cc triggering" with learn (it's the same of note triggering but with cc's: an incoming cc can move the dot of the specified slider\pad) the midipads becomes an inerface for almost all midicontrollers on the market!bobsled wrote:midi16pads is becoming an editor for my padKONTROL.insertpizhere wrote:i've been planning to add this.-PIKU- wrote:midipads: is it possible to add cc off aven for the x value. it's useful to control buffer override or xy based effects, the cc off sets the origina position when the pa is not touched.
i should add learn for the trigger and for the x-cc. i think i'll do it with keyboard modifiers (like shift-middle-click for trigger, alt-middle-click for x-cc) and menu items (maybe "Learn Note/Y-CC", "Learn X-CC", "Learn Trigger").if possible, add midi learn for midi external triggers.
- KVRAF
- 10286 posts since 17 Sep, 2004 from Austin, TX
I'm making presets for my Trigger Finger AND Touchscreen.bobsled wrote:midi16pads is becoming an editor for my padKONTROL.insertpizhere wrote:i've been planning to add this.-PIKU- wrote:midipads: is it possible to add cc off aven for the x value. it's useful to control buffer override or xy based effects, the cc off sets the origina position when the pa is not touched.
i should add learn for the trigger and for the x-cc. i think i'll do it with keyboard modifiers (like shift-middle-click for trigger, alt-middle-click for x-cc) and menu items (maybe "Learn Note/Y-CC", "Learn X-CC", "Learn Trigger").if possible, add midi learn for midi external triggers.

