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[jens]

Is there, in version 2, a way to see the samples stacked in their velocity layers? I can load samples and drag them to the gray area beside the keyboard, but I can't find a way to see them all at once, stacked by velocity. (Like in the default view of the previous version.)

They are automatically shown according to their velocity-settings...

Jens,

Thanks for responding, but I'm not sure what you mean when you say that the samples are automatically shown according to their vel settings. In the most recent version? (I'm tryng to create a preset from scratch, loading one sample at a time.)

When SC2 loads in Cantible, for me, what appears is the Zones interface. I can drag samples over to the gray area beside the keyboard, and I can set the vel and key range in the Names and Ranges box, but there is no way for me to see the usual map of samples stacked on top of each other. (The default interface in most samplers--VSamper, Direct Wave, Kontakt, Giga, etc, and the default interface in the previous version of SC.) In fact, in the most recent version, I see no way to create several velocity layers, really, without either dragging several samples on top of each other, hiding each other, or setting the layers up using the smal buttons at the top left of the screen. Surely there is a way to see a velocity map of the samples.

Sorry, but I really don't get where your problem could be - look at this:



That is what velocity-switching automatically looks like in SC2 and there's no way to show it differently apart from the pad-view...

[jens]

In the folder you installed SC2 to there's the folder 'database' containing two subfolders: 'patches' and 'samples'

'Patches' is where the references to your sample-programs go to and 'samples' is where the references to your .wavs go to.

You can add references by right-clicking and dragging the original folders and then chosing 'add shortcut here' from the explorer-menu which pops up when you drop them.

After you have added new references you need to refresh the database - you can do this by right-clicking in SC2's browser (using the included .exe doesn't work here and makes SC2 crashing my hosts).

Ok. Thanks.
I see them now : but what am i supposed to do with them ?
I mean : double-clicking on it does nothing, dragging a kit to the left part with a keyboard does nothing, and dragging it to the main screen does not much either...
Am i dumb ?
And how do you save them ?

Samples need to get dragged to the keyboard-area of the zones-view in order to load them and patches need to be double-clicked.


Are all you guys using a different version than the one I downloaded or what is going on here?

[swivel]

Surge doesn't use samples... It uses wavetable synthesis (sweepable wavetables, like the PPG kind), FM, and VA synthesis...

A little known undocumented feature is that you can drag and drop wavs onto the oscillator waveform. So you can actually use samples in surge!

[jens]

Surge doesn't use samples... It uses wavetable synthesis (sweepable wavetables, like the PPG kind), FM, and VA synthesis...

A little known undocumented feature is that you can drag and drop wavs onto the oscillator waveform. So you can actually use samples in surge!

that reminds me: SC is also a real synthesizer b.t.w.

[MattmaN]

I used SC free on most of my tracks, and added highlife with sfz to fill in where the polyphony was limited.
Now I may just use only SC for everything that is sample based.
I'll probably continue using 1.2 unless ver. 2 proves more usefull.
Thanks Claes!

I think this ushers in a new age where a large library is a must in order to make good sales from a soft sampler.
Who can compete with SC whithout a vast library?

Those who have bought kontakt in the past for it's sampling features as opposed to it's sounds may pass on it in favor of SC.

[sinkmusic]

Samples need to get dragged to the keyboard-area of the zones-view in order to load them and patches need to be double-clicked.


Are all you guys using a different version than the one I downloaded or what is going on here?

I can perfectly see .kit, .akp, .sf2 kits in the patch browser, but double, triple or even quadruple clicking on them does nothig at all. I have tried drag & dropping too : nothing.

[Jake Jackson]

Jens:

Thanks for your patience: the problem I was having came from (1)expecting to see the traditional view, with samples stacked on top of each other to indicate the vel range and (2) not seeing that once you drag samples onto each other, you then must manually set their velocity layer in the Name and Ranges box. There's no way to drag the edge of the graphic representing a sample to set it's velocity range?

Thanks again.

[Jake Jackson]

SinkMusic:

Read this thread from the very start. We've posted the details of how to load samples and sf2s\sfz's in version 2. It's very easy to slightly misread the steps to take. You work in Windows Explorer, not in the SC2 interface. Look at my post a few pages back.

For sf2 and sfz's, you create the shortcut for the FOLDER the file is in, NOT for the sf2 or the sfz itself. (The result is that you can put all of your sf2's\sfz's in one folder and SC2 will find them.)

[jens]

Samples need to get dragged to the keyboard-area of the zones-view in order to load them and patches need to be double-clicked.


Are all you guys using a different version than the one I downloaded or what is going on here?

I can perfectly see .kit, .akp, .sf2 kits in the patch browser, but double, triple or even quadruple clicking on them does nothig at all. I have tried drag & dropping too : nothing.

just to make sure:

you are clicking on the patches in the lower part of the browser, not the folders in the upper part, right?

[jens]

There's no way to drag the edge of the graphic representing a sample to set it's velocity range?

Unfortunately not afaik...







no problem b.t.w.!

[opia]

Thank You Vember!

[Jake Jackson]

Given the problems so many people are having getting files loaded and created, I wish someone had a place to host a basic manual of sorts. Much of it could just be copied from these ten pages of posts. I'd be happy to pull the information together into step by step instructions if someone could host it. I could do a pdf or a Word file. Anyone?

[sinkmusic]

you are clicking on the patches in the lower part of the browser, not the folders in the upper part, right?

Yes, of course !


@ Jake :
pfeww : this means i have to read 11 pages of the thread ? scary !
(and i only have 1 sfz kit, all other kits are Battery kits or Akai kits i have never used and want to try now).
What i don't get is that i do SEE the kits in the patch browser : i have made a shortcut (pointing to the folder where i keep my samples & kits) in the "patches" folder. But when i click/double click/drag on them, it does nothing.


@ Jake #2 : Putting stuff together to make a Quick Steps manual is a very nice idea (i had suggested it a bit above yesterday ).
There are some very early stuff on Vember Audio website, but not much, sadly.
I can contribute to a "difference comparison between SC1/SC2", if needed.

Cheers

[.jon]

I can host it, no probs. PM me when you're ready.

[Jake Jackson]

Now that I'm able to load files and create them, two more questions for anyone:

1. Is there a way to create pedal-down samples? (A layer only triggered when the pedal is down.) Looks as though the CC's only go up to cc16, and Sample box, there is no mention of Pedal. Not on the modulation list, either.)

2. Is there a way to set Velocity to Sample start for an entire instrument?