KVR Audio

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:57 pm

This was going to be a prelude type piece for a collaboration, but at this time our resident retail guru Chase is quite busy with school and work to extend the piece. Hopefully he'll find the time.

However, it's a selfcontained piece that has ritualistic elements and some cool syncopations. The main melodic line was played using one of the phys-mod VSTs from xoxos. Some of the other percussive elements came from Ugo's Ironhead.

Of course, I had to fix some notes in my performance and whatnot but overall it has a live feel to it. All the pitchbends are live which was quite a feat for me. Lemme know what you think.

http://www.box.net/shared/static/4hn6ktk4kg.mp3

liqih · Post by **liqih** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:36 pm

great mood, IMHO theere is too much volume difference between the lead and the groove

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:50 pm

liqih wrote:great mood, IMHO theere is too much volume difference between the lead and the groove

Do you have a sub on the system you listened with? That would help me examine this a bit further. Thanks.

liqih · Post by **liqih** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:55 pm

Shane Sanders wrote:
liqih wrote:great mood, IMHO theere is too much volume difference between the lead and the groove
Do you have a sub on the system you listened with? That would help me examine this a bit further. Thanks.

no sub used, it's off now, I used Genelec monitors range 60 20000 (practically it's a bit more),

stanlea · Post by **stanlea** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:32 pm

Great sound design and inspiration. I don't think it's only a matter of volume. Centering the lead would allow more subtility in the mix. Good work on the panning of percus. And again, the sounds are really fresh.

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:45 pm

stanlea wrote:Great sound design and inspiration. I don't think it's only a matter of volume. Centering the lead would allow more subtility in the mix. Good work on the panning of percus. And again, the sounds are really fresh.

Weird. It sounds centered to me. Anyone else hear it off-center? You guys have got me really confused and paranoid now.

It sounds fine to me on both a big system with a sub and in crappy little portable headphones.

stanlea · Post by **stanlea** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:52 pm

I'm going to listen to it again. But don't beat you, the whole thing rocks !

Daniel Pompougnac · Post by **Daniel Pompougnac** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:53 pm

Great sound design and inspiration. Good work on the panning of percus. And again, the sounds are really fresh.

Yes, Stanlea.
You speak english better than me and I'm really OK with you.

Many ways to collaborations.
Good work, Shane.

Daniel

xoxos · Post by **xoxos** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:07 am

sounded panned, didn't detract. those wibbles that come in a few times were nice.

i used to say this so much. clavia for pitch bend. no one else understands. worth the price of a lead 1.

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:00 am

xoxos wrote:sounded panned, didn't detract. those wibbles that come in a few times were nice.

i used to say this so much. clavia for pitch bend. no one else understands. worth the price of a lead 1.

Which channel is it panned toward? I think you guys may be hearing a ponging delay of some other sound. Or else one of my ears is going bad. hehe.

I used a Ztar with pads on the body to play the part and the joystick pitch bend thingy on it to wobble it up. I basically built a sound for each pad in your Surface VST, trying to make a 'set' that sounded like one instrument, then used them in tandem. Pretty fun to play.

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:11 am

I'm hearing it now...panned toward the left. Much more noticable on crappy laptop speakers. And the delay tosses over to the right.

xoxos · Post by **xoxos** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:12 am

left channel.. check your waveform, clear eg. ~20seconds.

guessed it from the pitch progression.. :D

Voidoid Surrealist · Post by **Voidoid Surrealist** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:17 am

NEEDS MOAR AMEBIX.

…oh, wait, you meant a different sort of crust.

Really great atmosphere here, it'll be fun to hear what Chase will do with it. I think it would work really well with a slower, darker, more minimal companion piece leading up to it, actually.
Oh, and FWIW, the lead is panned pretty hard to the left for me.

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:21 am

Voidoid Surrealist wrote:NEEDS MOAR AMEBIX.

…oh, wait, you meant a different sort of crust.

Really great atmosphere here, it'll be fun to hear what Chase will do with it. I think it would work really well with a slower, darker, more minimal companion piece leading up to it, actually.
Oh, and FWIW, the lead is panned pretty hard to the left for me.

yeah, we were hoping to do several pieces and have them ready to give away as a Christmas present, but time got the best of both of us. There are several DnB pieces started, but nothing close to a finished product.

Oddly, I think the panning is way less noticable in headphones, which is what I've been on all day until I got home and fired up the laptop. Strange!

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:22 am

It's definitely fun to do experimental pieces that are tonal. Harder to do than an atonal piece for me.

Cosmic Implosion - ritual drumming w/rusty crusty stuff