Diva Vs. Real Analog

[randyandyvandaman]

Wow. Randy, you make yourself out to be a hostile, bitter person in this post. Why the hostility? Can't afford it? Jealous because others can? What?

I wouldnt say that I am independantly wealthy but I can pretty well afford any software and in fact most hardware but it is my perogative to not like Diva regardless of that fact.

Some people on this forum could actually attest to my generosity as I have given away most unwanted software for free.

I have actually put money into peoples accounts that are/were struggling.

I have made quite nice posts about peoples tracks in Music Cafe.

So cynical and bitter I am not.

When the first Diva thread came up by OP Kriddle claiming it to be analogue well that just irked me a little. Waxing lyrical is nice but waxing over the rest of us is a bit different.

My opinion is...well...just that.

I dont have to like everything or anything that URS brings out every year.

We do live in a democratic society right.

Get a grip randyandyspamman...we know you work for some going under hardware wannabe anallog synth maker, who is starting to lose customers due to more accurately modeled soft synths. You can deny it, but that will just make me believe it more.

Wrong!!!!

I am disappointed with the transition from analogue to digital.

Every year or less we have to configure/reconfigure cpu's hdd's etc to try and accomodate the latest software.

I have sold off alot of softies as mentioned and hardware whether 100 percent analogue or even VA tickles my fancy more so than a piece of overrated software.

Diva is really the first VSTi that I would prefer to some hardware VA's (but not to real analogs).
BTW, even Diva's modeling is not that perfect.

Gee its a wonder no one has jumped on this post.

Some of you boys got your lace panties in a bunch.

I'm in need of a vacation

Come on down and I'll show you around. Picture shark tank or crocodile enclosure. Not intended as a threat.

Cheers

[standalone]

I dont have to like everything or anything that URS brings out every year.

No, apparently you have to loathe eveything that Urs (not URS) brings out every year, even if for many people it is the best softsynth ever. Or precisely because of that.

It's not about you liking Diva or not, it's about all the hate that you spew out here.

[pdxindy]

Every year or less we have to configure/reconfigure cpu's hdd's etc to try and accomodate the latest software.

No we don't... just keep using what you got... Nobody is making you do anything... including reading posts about Diva

[mcnoone]

I wouldnt say that I am independantly wealthy but I can pretty well afford any software and in fact most hardware...

Are you bragging of wealth here?

Some people on this forum could actually attest to my generosity as I have given away most unwanted software for free.

Are you bragging of wealth here?

I have actually put money into peoples accounts that are/were struggling.

Are you bragging of...yea okay.

So cynical and bitter I am not.

Well at least you left out many of the other negative adjectives that apply.

We do live in a democratic society right.

No. We don't. KVR is not a democratic society.
It's a forum which has a glorious leader, and strict rules of conduct.
All of which you have broken, and not paid a price.
btw...I do not live in a democratic society.
Those are not harmonious ones.

Every year or less we have to configure/reconfigure cpu's hdd's etc to try and accomodate the latest software.

Wrong! I have never had to configure/reconfigure my mac for any latest software...ever!

Not intended as a threat.

yea...right.

[Meffy]

I think you are all sucking one another's dick.

Talk about stroking the devs ego.

Why do we have to have ten threads from the one developer alll the time.

Ban me then f**k you counts.

Cheers

Okay. ONE week of time out! *thunder, lightning*


As for whoever was asking why randy hadn't got a ban yet: Did you complain to a moderator? No? Guess my telepathy isn't working as well as usual, and the direct feed of every KVR post into my brain is temporarily down for maintenance. (Don't Panic!) IOW, mods don't read everything. If you want action, ask for action. Don't assume it'll happen on its own. Thanks.

[trimph1]

@ Randy:

Then why are you so insulting towards people here?

You are not convincing anyone with this attitude of 'generalized grumpiness'

State what it is that you don't like about it without doing the other stuff...

[debra1rlo]

Ban me then f**k you counts.

Cheers

Okay. ONE week of time out! *thunder, lightning*

Brilliant. I was just searching for a similar pic when you posted that.

[hibidy]

anyways, more important things to do......like diva vs analog.

[mcnoone]

It really doesn't matter what analog purists say.
The important thing is that Diva is a big step in the right direction.
If there is a gap between analogue and Diva, I don't hear it, but then I don't have access to real analogue synths outside of samples and songs.
It does sound better than any samples I have, and it does do a good luckyman.
That's enough for me, and I believe most people, who won't be buying a real minimoog,ms20,jupiter this year.
If I was rich, I might buy those, but I wouldn't go on a forum to put down and mock on those that can't afford those, as randyandyspam has done.
Even for the skeptical. One step closer to a goal for soft synths, is worthy of respect, and should be welcome.
Even if to your ears it doesn't sound like your moog or whatever.
I'd still buy a Roland V-Synth over a Jupiter any day, as digital is way more diverse with the sonic palette.

[Meffy]

While Randy is having a time-out, let's lay off the return fire. Not fair when he isn't here to respond.

[trimph1]

I still do not get the angst thing about VA VS. Analogue stuff.

To me they are just different sets of sounds that one can choose to use(or Not) to compose their pieces with.

[SJ_Digriz]

While Randy is having a time-out, let's lay off the return fire. Not fair when he isn't here to respond.

Damn, and I was just about to bring out the big guns

[hibidy]

I still do not get the angst thing about VA VS. Analogue stuff.

To me they are just different sets of sounds that one can choose to use(or Not) to compose their pieces with.

(btw, I agree) but

[trimph1]

[pdxindy]

It really doesn't matter what analog purists say.
The important thing is that Diva is a big step in the right direction.
If there is a gap between analogue and Diva, I don't hear it, but then I don't have access to real analogue synths outside of samples and songs.
It does sound better than any samples I have, and it does do a good luckyman.
That's enough for me, and I believe most people, who won't be buying a real minimoog,ms20,jupiter this year.

Wouldn't matter how rich I was, I would not buy those synths. Softsynths are superior.

Same with digital over film for photography. Digital is just better. There are still some areas where film looks nicer, but there are areas where digital walks all over film. Color accuracy in my point and shoot under a variety of conditions is far superior than film ever was with the best possible equipment (I worked as a pro photographer for years). The film purists always focus on the fewer and fewer areas where film has an advantage and ignore that areas where digital is way better. Same with analog synth purists who get obsessed with elevating the sonic characteristics where analog still has an advantage. You know the argument is over when an analog purist is talking about some obscure quality they get in a particular situation with their Minimoog that Diva doesn't do.

In Diva I can set voice stacking to 3 and still have polyphony. I could never begin to do that with a Minimoog. The features, convenience and flexibility of the modern softsynth far surpasses the minor sonic advantages of analog synths over the latest offerings like Synthix and Diva. And the softsynths have their sonic advantages too, not just convenience and flexibility. The argument is over just some people haven't realized it yet