Musikmesse 2012: Propellerhead to share "exciting news"

[liquidsound]

The rack is now horizontal and with scalable width. And apart from legacy instruments the UI was completely redone with alot of enhancements.

HOW!!??
Maybe you mean multiple rows side by side. The only thing that got bigger is the mixer.

[VitaminD]

The rack is now horizontal and with scalable width. And apart from legacy instruments the UI was completely redone with alot of enhancements.

HOW!!??
Maybe you mean multiple rows side by side. The only thing that got bigger is the mixer.

Man if they have updated the GUI to allow for scaling.. that would be great. However, I see no mention of it in the help manual.. nor can I see anything in the program itself... hoping I'm missing something obvious.

[liquidsound]

The rack is now horizontal and with scalable width. And apart from legacy instruments the UI was completely redone with alot of enhancements.

HOW!!??
Maybe you mean multiple rows side by side. The only thing that got bigger is the mixer.

Man if they have updated the GUI to allow for scaling.. that would be great. However, I see no mention of it in the help manual.. nor can I see anything in the program itself... hoping I'm missing something obvious.

Desktop zoom!

[kmonkey]

Can anyone from Softube jump in and tell us some info. We know about EQ, what about their compressors? Are they going to be available? Which one is on to do? And is the sound same?



Now when i think twice about it, some of these top VST effects have oversampling in VST world, thus they need plugin delay compensation. I assume that will be possible and automatic from Reason 6.5 and further?

[darsho]

hmm...I watched the complete 40 min. video now on youtube.

To me Propellerheads are an important company, even if I don't use any of their products. Back then, Rebirth was groundbreaking (don't like the iPad version, though).
I love the REX format, using that loop format all the time in Reaper.

So yes, Propellerheads are important for the things they have invented.

However, all the 'new' things they showed about Reason, I kept thinking 'that is nothing new, I can do that already in Reaper or with Maschine'.
For example that Rack extensions crashing don't crash the host...just run a plugin as a separate process in Reaper and you have that as well. And so on and so forth. Nothing new.

I was considering to have a go with the Reason Essentials version at one point, but the video showed me that Reason is nothing I really need at this point.

While they once have been an innovative developer, to me it feels they nowadays are simply trying to catch up with what others have already done.
But they are catching up in important areas, so it's a good thing that they do.

But : I am really looking forward to Figure, it looked like a lot of fun.
I wonder if it can export the projects to Reason, like iMaschine does with it's export function to Maschine. If one can export projects to Reason, I might even be convinced to get me Reason one day, even if it's not all that innovative.
I love making a beat on iMaschine on the trainride home and continue to work on it at home in Maschine, so if Figure does that I might be sold after all. We'll see.

[cytone]

Man if they have updated the GUI to allow for scaling.. that would be great. However, I see no mention of it in the help manual.. nor can I see anything in the program itself... hoping I'm missing something obvious.

I think a new scalable GUI has been unofficially leaked by some dev comments. Don't tell anyone.


"However, we also have to do 3D files for the final, scalable version. I started on this, but I didn't make it to the final version within a day. We'll see once their final toolset arrives."

"There are *very* strict limitations to what you can and are allowed to do GUI-wise and to some extent even how things look because RE uses full 3D-models and PH decides lighting etc."

[v1o]

The GUI was redone for Record 1.0 and updated for Reason 6. From what I understand the Reason GUI is built from Vector graphics and not bitmaps. Which means the graphics should be scalable to a different size or resolution without losing fidelity.

What do you mean 're-done?' It appears to be currently the same size as it was in Reason v1???

If you mean they converted from raster to vector, then great. There would now be no reason NOT to have the ability to step increase the size in the preferences. Whats stopping them?

You said Reason's UI has not been updated in 12+ years. And I was just correcting you. Record 1.0 and above used a new UI. In Reason 1.0 up to 4.0 the rack was fixed width and vertical. The rack is now horizontal and with scalable width. And apart from legacy instruments the UI was completely redone with alot of enhancements.

How do you scale the rack size? It takes up half my screen width; it's tiny. I see no changes with which I, and many others in this very thread, have suggested they make.

Now, if you can show me how to increase the size of the rack (and thus all the generators on it) then I'll retract my suggestion. Please show me.

You continue to purposely completely miss the point. Which is that I corrected you for incorrectly stating the GUI has not been updated in "12+ years".

And if you actually read my earlier reply correctly, you would see I was referring to the scalable width of the new UI as an example of change from UI of old versions of Reason. What that allows you to do is stack devices horizontally and not to scale them.

[braj]

The GUI was redone for Record 1.0 and updated for Reason 6. From what I understand the Reason GUI is built from Vector graphics and not bitmaps. Which means the graphics should be scalable to a different size or resolution without losing fidelity.

What do you mean 're-done?' It appears to be currently the same size as it was in Reason v1???

If you mean they converted from raster to vector, then great. There would now be no reason NOT to have the ability to step increase the size in the preferences. Whats stopping them?

You said Reason's UI has not been updated in 12+ years. And I was just correcting you. Record 1.0 and above used a new UI. In Reason 1.0 up to 4.0 the rack was fixed width and vertical. The rack is now horizontal and with scalable width. And apart from legacy instruments the UI was completely redone with alot of enhancements.

How do you scale the rack size? It takes up half my screen width; it's tiny. I see no changes with which I, and many others in this very thread, have suggested they make.

Now, if you can show me how to increase the size of the rack (and thus all the generators on it) then I'll retract my suggestion. Please show me.

You continue to purposely completely miss the point. Which is that I corrected you for incorrectly stating the GUI has not been updated in "12+ years".

And if you actually read my earlier reply correctly, you would see I was referring to the scalable width of the new UI as an example of change from UI of old versions of Reason. What that allows you to do is stack devices horizontally and not to scale them.

But the RACK doesn't have a scalable width like you stated, the application WINDOW does.

[v1o]

The rack is now horizontal and with scalable width. And apart from legacy instruments the UI was completely redone with alot of enhancements.

HOW!!??
Maybe you mean multiple rows side by side. The only thing that got bigger is the mixer.

By dragging and dropping the bottom-right corner you can scale the width of UI. And
you can now lay out your devices horizontally. You need to read that in context, not just quote a single sentence when I was talking about changes to the entire UI.

[braj]

The rack is now horizontal and with scalable width. And apart from legacy instruments the UI was completely redone with alot of enhancements.

HOW!!??
Maybe you mean multiple rows side by side. The only thing that got bigger is the mixer.

By dragging and dropping the bottom-right corner you can scale the width of UI. And
you can now lay out your devices horizontally. You need to read that in context, not just quote a single sentence when I was talking about changes to the entire UI.

Sorry but you are totally missing the point. It is the size of the UI elements, the knobs and sliders, the overall size of the components that is not scalable. As pixel density has increased, with more pixels in the same square inch, a UI designed for 1024x768 is not aging well on the newest monitors. That is the point.

[v1o]

The GUI was redone for Record 1.0 and updated for Reason 6. From what I understand the Reason GUI is built from Vector graphics and not bitmaps. Which means the graphics should be scalable to a different size or resolution without losing fidelity.

What do you mean 're-done?' It appears to be currently the same size as it was in Reason v1???

If you mean they converted from raster to vector, then great. There would now be no reason NOT to have the ability to step increase the size in the preferences. Whats stopping them?

You said Reason's UI has not been updated in 12+ years. And I was just correcting you. Record 1.0 and above used a new UI. In Reason 1.0 up to 4.0 the rack was fixed width and vertical. The rack is now horizontal and with scalable width. And apart from legacy instruments the UI was completely redone with alot of enhancements.

How do you scale the rack size? It takes up half my screen width; it's tiny. I see no changes with which I, and many others in this very thread, have suggested they make.

Now, if you can show me how to increase the size of the rack (and thus all the generators on it) then I'll retract my suggestion. Please show me.

You continue to purposely completely miss the point. Which is that I corrected you for incorrectly stating the GUI has not been updated in "12+ years".

And if you actually read my earlier reply correctly, you would see I was referring to the scalable width of the new UI as an example of change from UI of old versions of Reason. What that allows you to do is stack devices horizontally and not to scale them.

But the RACK doesn't have a scalable width like you stated, the application WINDOW does.

If you read my post in its actual context. You see I was talking about whole scale changes to the UI.

[Dogboy73]

For crying out loud guys, whatever!!

You CANNOT change the size of the individual devices. There how's that?!

[v1o]

The rack is now horizontal and with scalable width. And apart from legacy instruments the UI was completely redone with alot of enhancements.

HOW!!??
Maybe you mean multiple rows side by side. The only thing that got bigger is the mixer.

By dragging and dropping the bottom-right corner you can scale the width of UI. And
you can now lay out your devices horizontally. You need to read that in context, not just quote a single sentence when I was talking about changes to the entire UI.

Sorry but you are totally missing the point. It is the size of the UI elements, the knobs and sliders, the overall size of the components that is not scalable. As pixel density has increased, with more pixels in the same square inch, a UI designed for 1024x768 is not aging well on the newest monitors. That is the point.

I did not say the knobs and sliders were scalable.

[braj]

The rack is now horizontal and with scalable width.

That is just plain wrong. It is two vertical columns now, not 'horizontal' and the width of the RACK is not scalable. The two racks side by side cannot be scaled up or down in resolution.

[v1o]

The rack is now horizontal and with scalable width.

That is just plain wrong. It is two vertical columns now, not 'horizontal' and the width of the RACK is not scalable. The two racks side by side cannot be scaled up or down in resolution.

Again quoted out of context. This is getting incredibly childish.

Let me rephrase the whole paragraph just for you, so there is no more misunderstanding:

"You said Reason's UI has not been updated in 12+ years. And I was just correcting you. Record 1.0 and above used a new UI. In Reason 1.0 up to 4.0 the rack (and UI) was fixed width and vertical. The rack is now horizontal and with scalable width (of the UI). And apart from legacy instruments the UI was completely redone with alot of enhancements."