Can of Worms Now Open: Mac vs. PC

[EvilDragon]

I love laptops which have numpad and page up/down/ins/del/home/end keys. MBP is not it. My Toshiba, on the other hand, is.

[V0RT3X]

I love laptops which have numpad and page up/down/ins/del/home/end keys. MBP is not it. My Toshiba, on the other hand, is.

I miss that from my old windoz laptop. In defence of Macbooks, you can find attachments via USB that give you that extra numpad if you want it.

[EvilDragon]

Screw that. I want it all in one. As if MBP isn't scarce enough with USB already (screw USB hubs, too).

Thankfully my Toshiba has 4 USBs (one shared with eSATA - learn Apple, learn!).

[V0RT3X]

Screw that. I want it all in one. As if MBP isn't scarce enough with USB already.

Thankfully my Toshiba has 4 USBs (one shared with eSATA - learn Apple, learn!).

I agree with the lack of USB ports on MPB systems.

[trimph1]

A slight bit of a historical curiosum...

[Ashe37]

And Amiga BASIC was from them as well.

[tomtoo]

And Amiga BASIC was from them as well.

[DuX]

A slight bit of a historical curiosum...

[Haraldator]

Screw that. I want it all in one. As if MBP isn't scarce enough with USB already (screw USB hubs, too).

Yeah, it's just crazy. My crappy $500 Samsung netbook has more USB ports than my MacBook Pro (and much better wi-fi connection - at one fifth of the price). And using USB hubs isn't exactly a walk in the park, when all your different devices don't want to play nicely together when sharing one. That (along with the subpar performance, stability and compatibility issues, don't get me started on those...) means that I'm just not using that computer much for music production. I mainly use it for work, and it's fine for that (except when the not-so-great wi-fi connection gets in the way).

[ajdz]

It seems that they anyway don't like to provide anything else than thunderbolt, so that they can sell dozens of expensive adapters for everything else that you have to buy from apple. They not even offer a hdmi port which even the cheapest pc netbooks do. And they also want that you buy all software from their app store, everything else is evil. Apple is a golden cage. THAT's the main problem of apple computers.

[metamorphosis]

My preference from a workflow perspective is to use a Mac, but I think with the advent of Windows 7 most of the usability and performance arguments against Windows ceased to exist.

I don't think you really understand usability. Actually usability has been deprecated since XP, in favour of flashier looks and a mac-os-style taskbar. This is a backwards step from every objective UI design standpoint, but it does look pretty.
However on a technological front, fewer people have issues with Win7 than they did with XP, so that's good.

[Mushy Mushy]

My preference from a workflow perspective is to use a Mac, but I think with the advent of Windows 7 most of the usability and performance arguments against Windows ceased to exist.

I don't think you really understand usability. Actually usability has been deprecated since XP, in favour of flashier looks and a mac-os-style taskbar. This is a backwards step from every objective UI design standpoint, but it does look pretty.
However on a technological front, fewer people have issues with Win7 than they did with XP, so that's good.

+1
XP smashes Win7 in the visual department.
Still have nightmares over the day my work PC "upgraded".

[bmrzycki]

I fully expect non i5 etc chip builds to be excluded from the next OS (and consequently from new itunes so no new ipod compatibility).

I am not even sure this is entirely possible, since the Core2 series machine are executing the same binary code.

Oh it's possible. I have a CoreDuo (old!) mac mini. 10.8 refuses to install on it and the error screen says it requires Core2Duo or newer machines. Apple puts identification strings in ROMs for the OS to pull information from. Sure, it can be hacked but then every time you do software updates you have to get patches from elsewhere. It's no longer convenient. Forced obsolescence is the Apple way, just look at how quickly they ditched Rosetta in OS X.

I have no idea if they'll disable i5 chips in the next build or not. I can only say they most certainly have done something similar already.

[robogone]

My preference from a workflow perspective is to use a Mac, but I think with the advent of Windows 7 most of the usability and performance arguments against Windows ceased to exist.

I don't think you really understand usability. Actually usability has been deprecated since XP, in favour of flashier looks and a mac-os-style taskbar. This is a backwards step from every objective UI design standpoint, but it does look pretty.
However on a technological front, fewer people have issues with Win7 than they did with XP, so that's good.

It's not that I don't understand it, it's that I'm using a different (but valid) meaning from you. I mean that it's usable to the extent that you don't have so many issues to deal with out of the box i.e. BSOD, various other crashes, weird driver issues, etc.

[DuX]

That kinda depends on the knowledge about the OS and the computer you're installing, robojam. I've got more problems of how to cut all the unnecessary bloat from W7 these days . I rarely had any problems with XP and PC builds, ever, and all of the problems stemmed usually from badly written drivers, maybe a little buggy BIOS, so nothing to do with the Windows itself. Then drivers and the BIOS get polished after some time... sometimes sooner, sometimes later, and then it all works fine.