well, i've stopped using any SE/SM plugins... just because i like to squeeze every ounce of power my daw has to offer.fluffy_little_something wrote:
I am not so sure the SE thingy is a problem for most people.
fluffy_little_something wrote:I am not so sure the SE thingy is a problem for most people. I guess it always becomes harder to sell something once it has been on the market for a long time. It is the same with discoDSP if I am not mistaken. People are curious and spoiled, they always want change and something new to explore.Teksonik wrote:Doesn't the Sonic Project OPX Pro copy presets from the original hardware ? What's the difference ? I can't take OPX Pro seriously because they've never been arsed to remove the Synth Edit curse.....just plain laziness........analoguesamples909 wrote:It probably does suck for Peter999 to see a free version...obviously its not ok to copy presets - that is one of the best things about the OP-X - the excellent sound design as well as attention to detail.
We have all seen how tremendously successful Sylenth became after Lennard removed the SE curse from it.......
That's why if something new gets published it tends to sell much more easily, like Tal stuff whenever there is something new.
The problem I have with Diva is that it doesnt have a Prophet or OB style Osc...the Roland ones are not that warm and the Moog sound is a bit too brash for poly duties in my humble opinion. I asked Urs for an OB or Prophet Osc but he doesnt seem to want to saying they are too similar - but for me I MUCH prefer my OB8 to the MKS80 I had before...the OB and Sequential Osc were perfect for Polyphonic duties in my opinion...the right warmth, weight and movement for analogue chords...maybe He'll do it one day but I hope for NI doing an updated prophet the level of Monark which I prefer over Diva anyways...Kriminal wrote:
Now Diva has Obie filters, i think peter should worry more about u-he
No the original hardware has nothing like the amount of presets you get with the OPX...I think you get something like 1200 presets with the OPX...and Peter has constantly added interesting banks over the time...if he watches a cool analogue demo he often makes the bank for the OP-X to demonstrate it...its very cool. There are prophet banks, jupiter banks - loads...Teksonik wrote:
Doesn't the Sonic Project OPX Pro copy presets from the original hardware ? What's the difference ? I can't take OPX Pro seriously because they've never been arsed to remove the Synth Edit curse.....just plain laziness........
We have all seen how tremendously successful Sylenth became after Lennard removed the SE curse from it.......
Its nice but in comparison to the video its not quite the same weight, the way the sound gells together is nicer and the high end is a bit sweeter - its all the normal things I hear when comparing emulations so I hope the feedback isnt too negative. I just dont know how to get past the limitations and nature of digital to eek out those last few percentages but some get close like Monark made by NI...The actual sound is very oberheim aside from the subtle analogue characteristics I describe above...2DaT wrote:Warning! Huge 70 mb file.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/48t ... 7/spsw.wav
Inspired by Retrosounds' ob-x space sweeps video.
Its somewhere here, not 1:1 but close.
Can you do it better with other synths?
The SE thingy is a problem for every Mac user, obviously…fluffy_little_something wrote:…I am not so sure the SE thingy is a problem for most people.
10% constant cpu usage in comparsion to 40-50%. I think worth itlayzer wrote: i checked out BOXP using the included savihost.exe and noticed it eats up 10% cpu just idling...so im not sure going to c++ made much of a difference from the netvst framework.
Reverb and youtube compression , obviously, mattersanaloguesamples909 wrote:
Its nice but in comparison to the video its not quite the same weight, the way the sound gells together is nicer and the high end is a bit sweeter - its all the normal things I hear when comparing emulations so I hope the feedback isnt too negative. I just dont know how to get past the limitations and nature of digital to eek out those last few percentages but some get close like Monark made by NI...The actual sound is very oberheim aside from the subtle analogue characteristics I describe above...
Depending on the circumstances, could be yes... But in this case, it is not a copy of a copy, but rather a copy of the original...yessongs wrote:So making a copy of a copy is theft?
Exactly so. If he is copying Sonic Project's vst, then there is an ethical problem. If 2DaT is emulating the original, then as 2DaT wrotepdxindy wrote:Depending on the circumstances, could be yes... But in this case, it is not a copy of a copy, but rather a copy of the original...yessongs wrote:So making a copy of a copy is theft?
As simple as that2DaT wrote: Better or not? To your taste.
Which are.......original hardware.....but anyway my point was that someone said copying OPX's patches would be wrong...I simply pointed out that many of OPX's patches are themselves copied.......see the irony ?analoguesamples909 wrote:There are prophet banks, jupiter banksTeksonik wrote:
Doesn't the Sonic Project OPX Pro copy presets from the original hardware ?
It's a sad fact that staying ahead of your users needs is what makes or breaks many companies. I was really tempted by OPX in that company's sale earlier this year, but the fact that it was SE, so no Mac version, and only 32-bit with no definite commitment on a 64-bit build pulled my finger off the trigger. (To be honest, a little time comparing what I could do with Diva at the time was also a contributing factor; now with the Uhbie filter, well...)yessongs wrote:Am I the only one laughing at the massive hypocrisy perpetuating here? Calling someone a thief for thinking of issuing a free product that is a copy of a product that is already a copy of a hardware product? So making a copy of a copy is theft? What about the first copy of the work that someone copied from the hardware version? Slightly hypocritical don't you think? LOL! And for the record I would still want to buy OPX Pro II even if I had the free OBXD or whatever the OP ends up calling it because I want them all. if anything this probably inspires the OPX people to get to work and improve that product to take it 64 bit and if that is the case then that is cool. They should be adding in the various moog and prophet components like Diva seems to be doing. As for copying presets, are not the presets in OPX pro best known for being copies as well? Even more laughable I say.
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