MPowerSynth improvements & feature requests
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- KVRist
- 75 posts since 5 Oct, 2005
+1 for presets for Multiparameters and Modulators ("all" and "separated" so you can save either all multiparameters, all modulators or both)
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14325 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Tremolo - there will be "fade in" (you call it ramp up) and shape (full oscillator shape editor).
Volume by note - that seems rather extreme... well I'll think about it... For the record, that's exactly why the filters are following the notes by default.
Disable default learn in MIDI - no idea why you would want that. If you click MIDI instead of accessing it via multiparameters, the learn won't be enabled anyway.
FX level - simply click "Set" to set the global output gain.
ability to select and assign multiple mod destinations at once - well, I have no idea what that means
. The learn definitely works like that, just enable learn and touch everything you want the mod/multiparam to control.
Mod assignments presets - I'll add assignments presets, but the general presets won't be changed - these control the behaviour, not what they are controlling.
Banks mode - well, I usually randomize
. Anyway you can control it directly from the multiparameter window. You know, if you want to control say 32 parameters at once, it will probably need 32 clicks
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Volume by note - that seems rather extreme... well I'll think about it... For the record, that's exactly why the filters are following the notes by default.
Disable default learn in MIDI - no idea why you would want that. If you click MIDI instead of accessing it via multiparameters, the learn won't be enabled anyway.
FX level - simply click "Set" to set the global output gain.
ability to select and assign multiple mod destinations at once - well, I have no idea what that means
Mod assignments presets - I'll add assignments presets, but the general presets won't be changed - these control the behaviour, not what they are controlling.
Banks mode - well, I usually randomize
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- KVRian
- 508 posts since 5 Oct, 2011 from Deep in the jungle
I meant to select multiple parameters in the 'Select Parameter' windows, to assign all at once. But as you pointed out (which I cannot believe slipped my mindability to select and assign multiple mod destinations at once - well, I have no idea what that means . The learn definitely works like that, just enable learn and touch everything you want the mod/multiparam to control.
That'll do nicely, thanksMod assignments presets - I'll add assignments presets, but the general presets won't be changed - these control the behaviour, not what they are controlling.
Yes that's what I did once I'd assigned all the harmonics, so I end up with 32 random waveforms in the banks which I can then modulate through however I see fit. Very cool!!!Banks mode - well, I usually randomize . Anyway you can control it directly from the multiparameter window. You know, if you want to control say 32 parameters at once, it will probably need 32 clicks .
Sweet!Tremolo - there will be "fade in" (you call it ramp up) and shape (full oscillator shape editor).
- KVRAF
- 1758 posts since 15 Mar, 2013 from Germany
Sounds cool!MeldaProduction wrote:Tremolo - there will be "fade in" (you call it ramp up) and shape (full oscillator shape editor).
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ability to select and assign multiple mod destinations at once - well, I have no idea what that means. The learn definitely works like that, just enable learn and touch everything you want the mod/multiparam to control.
Didn't know about the learn feature to add multiple destination parameters either, cool thing, will try that
The tremolo, will the fade in start *after* attack+decay of the envelope? Or could it also start from the beginning or after the attack? I would prefer that the tremolo starts already at the decay and will be superimposed to the decay phase. Because it sounds a little odd if there is a rather long decay and then starts the tremolo.
If both ways are needed, maybe add a switch to start tremolo 1) after decay or 2) after attack.
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- KVRian
- 508 posts since 5 Oct, 2011 from Deep in the jungle
Yes +1 to that, It's definitely a powerful option to have on a synth. I think it should be accessible in the midi settings notes tab though. From there click on the mode menu and choose 'Custom' or something, which will then reveal a transformation shape.wildcafe wrote:I open a modulator, goto a page called "Key Range", which looks like a transformation shape. On the x-axis are the notes (e.g. C-4 to C4) and on the y-axis is the depth of modulation. So I can draw a shape so that the modulator's depth is 50% on C-2, 60% on C0 and 100% on C2...
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14325 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Sorry no transforms for the key/velocity, at least not now.
About the tremolo after attack+decay - well, it will probably be after that, but I'll think about it.
About the tremolo after attack+decay - well, it will probably be after that, but I'll think about it.
- KVRAF
- 1758 posts since 15 Mar, 2013 from Germany
Hm ok.MeldaProduction wrote:Sorry no transforms for the key/velocity, at least not now.
About the tremolo after attack+decay - well, it will probably be after that, but I'll think about it.
Another thing: is there a way to change the behaviour of the banks value fields? I like to work with sliders, where you can directly click in a scale and the value is set to where you clicked. In the banks you have to click and pull up/down to set a value. For lots of target parameters that is very tedious. I would prefer it it was like with the harmonics generator where you can basically "draw" the partial volumes and phases.
Also, I remember in the list of changes was an improved random generator for the banks, but apparently it's not in there? It still produces a majority of 0 and 100 and
only a few real random values.
- KVRAF
- 1758 posts since 15 Mar, 2013 from Germany
That Mod/MultiParam learn feature is so awesome! No more scrolling through endless parameter lists
Good that I learned this now 
One thing: if a preset is chosen for a section and then some parameters in that area are changed, can we have the preset name get in italics or with an asterisk behind it to mark that the section does not contain parameters exactly as in the preset? If I open an older patch and look at some settings, there is a preset name in a lot of areas, but I never know if it's really the preset that was used as is.
One thing: if a preset is chosen for a section and then some parameters in that area are changed, can we have the preset name get in italics or with an asterisk behind it to mark that the section does not contain parameters exactly as in the preset? If I open an older patch and look at some settings, there is a preset name in a lot of areas, but I never know if it's really the preset that was used as is.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14325 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Sliders banks - sorry not possible, simple reason - sliders need to be big... it needs to be buttons only here. Just imagine 30 columns...
Bank random generator - it works, I just checked
. Anyway it depends on the parameters.
Italics... - sorry, not possible, it's way too complex I'm afraid, too many different parameters...
Bank random generator - it works, I just checked
Italics... - sorry, not possible, it's way too complex I'm afraid, too many different parameters...
- KVRAF
- 1758 posts since 15 Mar, 2013 from Germany
How bout leaving the columns with a minimum width and open a horizontal scrollbar if there are more than say 4 columns?MeldaProduction wrote:Sliders banks - sorry not possible, simple reason - sliders need to be big... it needs to be buttons only here. Just imagine 30 columns...
So why does it not work for me? I get way too many 0 and 100 and only half of the values are numbers in between.Bank random generator - it works, I just checked. Anyway it depends on the parameters.
You just would need to check that all parameters that are stored in the preset match those of the area, right?Italics... - sorry, not possible, it's way too complex I'm afraid, too many different parameters...
- KVRAF
- 1758 posts since 15 Mar, 2013 from Germany
... or set a flag "unedited" once a preset is loaded in an area, and then set it to "edited" once a parameter is touched. That should be really simple. No need to check what the actual parameter values are.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14325 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Sliders - the scrollbar is there, but it's incredible ineffective. Sorry, it will stay with buttons.
Random generator - which parameters are you generating? Can you send me a preset?
Italic - the problem is "to detect a change" - while 99.99% plugins on the market are as simple as having at most a few dozens knobs, all connected to automatable parameters, it is really easy to determine if something has changed. Here just imagine a preset for modulators - then you have ADSR editor, inside it an oscillator shape editor, inside that say a step sequencer... pretty hardcore...
Random generator - which parameters are you generating? Can you send me a preset?
Italic - the problem is "to detect a change" - while 99.99% plugins on the market are as simple as having at most a few dozens knobs, all connected to automatable parameters, it is really easy to determine if something has changed. Here just imagine a preset for modulators - then you have ADSR editor, inside it an oscillator shape editor, inside that say a step sequencer... pretty hardcore...
- KVRAF
- 1758 posts since 15 Mar, 2013 from Germany
What?? The absolute opposite! Buttons are limited in their use (no mouse "drawing" possible), while sliders can. And also you can always double click and enter an exact value with sliders or hold shift key to do fine adjustment. I really don't see ANY advantage of buttons for this purpose. Please consider changing to sliders again! With buttons, you can't really edit anything when you have many parameters, random is your only chance then to do anything. Would be cooool if you change to sliders because then you can edit a lot better.MeldaProduction wrote:Sliders - the scrollbar is there, but it's incredible ineffective. Sorry, it will stay with buttons.
And the horizontal scrollbar is already there, just not in use, greyed out
Screenshot here:Random generator - which parameters are you generating? Can you send me a preset?
Many zeros in a row, and also quite several exact 100.0. It was even worse when I first clicked random and it got a little better when I clicked multiple times.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rxkts8719766b ... meters.png
Hm but since you can already save parameters in presets for certain areas, you already have a mapping list of which parameters belong to which areas, right? So a check may involve a lot of parameters, but that's not a problem because a computer does this and not a human beingItalic - the problem is "to detect a change" - while 99.99% plugins on the market are as simple as having at most a few dozens knobs, all connected to automatable parameters, it is really easy to determine if something has changed. Here just imagine a preset for modulators - then you have ADSR editor, inside it an oscillator shape editor, inside that say a step sequencer... pretty hardcore...
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14325 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Sliders - I don't get it. The only difference is that with buttons you move vertically instead of horizontally. And yes, it takes some time, but random clicking into a field full of sliders doesn't look promising to me...
Randomizer - CableChannel come on, you promised you'll check things before you start posting them
. You are randomizing harmonics! Check the harmonics generator... There's a reason 0% and 100% are used so often... Just play with the random generator...
Italic - sorry, I don't have time to explain technical details...
Randomizer - CableChannel come on, you promised you'll check things before you start posting them
Italic - sorry, I don't have time to explain technical details...
