Omnisphere 2 is here! (yes, it's really here!)

[Arglebargle]

the complaining makes no sense. how many products give you a 50% discount for owning a previous version of the product? sure wish I could get that with computers, or cars, or anything expensive. Oh, I already own a computer, give me this new one for a steep discount.

how is it a 50% discount ?? the price of omni 1, sans these new features, is $499. the price of omni 2, with the features.....$499. long-term users, having already paid $499, now have to pay $249 so what was that about a discount ??

Yeah, rather than the full price of Omnisphere 2 which is $500.

So the next time I buy a car, what percentage of it should I get off if I own a previous model of the car? Clearly more than 50%, according to you. Hey I'm all for that. I just need you to come with me to haggle with the dealer.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

I suppose all the owners of Absynth, Reaktor, and other early NI plugs should be up in arms about the deal I got when I bought Komplete. So much for customer loyalty practically giving away what we paid good money for!

I bought Kontakt, Battery, and Guitar Rig all separately. Also I think Reaktor. NI doesn't offer a good enough Komplete discount for someone like me who owns most of the big products separately. f**k them.

i bought battery and reaktor separately. i also have abbey road drums, and all the NI-licensed evolve stuff. due to Ni having a great resale policy, I will be able to sell off most of this when i crossgrade to komplete utimate. by my calculations, i should end up with complete ultimate for about 200€

[AnalogGuy1]

I agree with this unfairness completely. And it isn't just limited to Spectrasonics!

I have a 2010 Suburu. The 2015 model costs the same amount as I paid for my old one, and looks much nicer than my old one. But when I went to the dealership said I should be given a new car for at least half off because I have this five year old model, he wouldn't do it.

The nerve!

[Phorous]

I suppose all the owners of Absynth, Reaktor, and other early NI plugs should be up in arms about the deal I got when I bought Komplete. So much for customer loyalty practically giving away what we paid good money for!

I bought Kontakt, Battery, and Guitar Rig all separately. Also I think Reaktor. NI doesn't offer a good enough Komplete discount for someone like me who owns most of the big products separately. f**k them.

I didn't realize crossgrades were that expensive

[cryophonik]

Am I going to bitch when my grandkids pay $500 for Omnisphere 7.0...

Naw, we'll all be too busy bitching that Stylus RMX 2 still hasn't been released.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

but the thing that I got for that extra $250 was 3-4 years of using Omnisphere. All I can say is that it was worth it for me.

if it makes you happy to think of it like that, that's cool. but your personal rationalisation has nothing to do with what is a very clear 1-to-1 exchange of new features for a price of $249 (which a few of us seem to think is overpriced)

[r1chard]

the complaining makes no sense. how many products give you a 50% discount for owning a previous version of the product? sure wish I could get that with computers, or cars, or anything expensive. Oh, I already own a computer, give me this new one for a steep discount.

Many vst companies give free upgrades for minor upgrades like this one and charge a reasonable amount of money for upgrades.

As far as software goes, some companies, FL Studio gives free upgrades for life, and charge for new vsts.

There is a big difference between hardware and software. you should know that already. Asking for free minor updates like v2 of omnisphere is not unreasonable. Then charge for the sample pack, many companies do this and for a lot less.

[Arglebargle]

There is a big difference between hardware and software. you should know that already. Asking for free minor updates like v2 of omnisphere is not unreasonable. Then charge for the sample pack, many companies do this and for a lot less.

I guess we're at a fundamental disagreement of Omni 2 being a "minor" update. I suppose there is no seeing eye to eye.

[r1chard]

I agree with this unfairness completely. And it isn't just limited to Spectrasonics!

I have a 2010 Suburu. The 2015 model costs the same amount as I paid for my old one, and looks much nicer than my old one. But when I went to the dealership said I should be given a new car for at least half off because I have this five year old model, he wouldn't do it.

The nerve!

Oh Please, stop being silly, we all know hardware is different but if you want to use that analogy, you can trade in your 2010 against the 2015 and pay less.

I would have no problems with spectrosonics trading in my version 1 for 500 dollars, the box is brand new it is in perfect condition, my grandmother only used in on sundays at church. Ok, give me 400 and I will pay 100 dollars for the new one. LOL

[basslinemaster]

I believe it's €399 with VAT included.

FYI: thomann.de sells Omnisphere 1 right now for €370 (VAT included).

Thank you!

It's cheaper from Best Service:

http://www.bestservice.de/en/omnisphere.html

Change the price to dollars, $ 356.35, about 315 Euros, £237 (UK). A bargain, seeing as you get to use Omnisphere now, and then a free upgrade to Omnisphere 2.

The price has been upgraded to $479 now on the Best Service site... what a pity I didn't have the money last week!

[Phorous]

minor upgrade

You say these words but I am not sure we are using the same definition of "minor". Could you please explain what you find to be a major upgrade?

Just because Omnisphere isn't physical doesn't mean alot of work didn't go into version 2. It also doesn't mean its any less valuable.

[mostlyjustj]

if it makes you happy to think of it like that, that's cool. but your personal rationalisation has nothing to do with what is a very clear 1-to-1 exchange of new features for a price of $249 (which a few of us seem to think is overpriced)

I thought Omni 1 was going to be worth it when I paid it. So I did. No buyers remorse. A few years later I've been given an offer on Omni 2 and I need to decide whether I think it will be worth it or not. That's it. Whether I rationalize about how it's fair, or I rationalize about how I'm getting the short end of the stick, I still just need to decide what I want to do.

Software companies make their move. We make our moves. Time marches on. Simple

[r1chard]

There is a big difference between hardware and software. you should know that already. Asking for free minor updates like v2 of omnisphere is not unreasonable. Then charge for the sample pack, many companies do this and for a lot less.

I guess we're at a fundamental disagreement of Omni 2 being a "minor" update. I suppose there is no seeing eye to eye.

Take away the presets..

You have a bunch of fx. Granular is an effect, import audio should have been in the first edition. I don't need any more effects, my daw has plenty. This is minor and should be a free upgrade. Many companies do free upgrades, then charge you for the sounds.

Granular is out there. There is no complete rework of the interface or coding of the product. They added a bunch of affects on. All they needed to do to import audio is another program built in that converts .wav to their format, they already had it otherwise they would not have been able to import their own samples into the product. If you think that is a major rework of the product, or recode, or interact do over, you can think that, but I think most intelligent people won't think so. At least those that are in the computer software industry.

[AnalogGuy1]

I agree with this unfairness completely. And it isn't just limited to Spectrasonics!

I have a 2010 Subaru. The 2015 model costs the same amount as I paid for my old one, and looks much nicer than my old one. But when I went to the dealership said I should be given a new car for at least half off because I have this five year old model, he wouldn't do it.

The nerve!

Oh Please, stop being silly, we all know hardware is different but if you want to use that analogy, you can trade in your 2010 against the 2015 and pay less.

I completely agree with you. I can trade in my 2010 Subaru and get the 2015 for about 50% off. If only Spectrasonics would do the same. But they are so unfair!

[AnalogGuy1]

I agree with this unfairness completely. And it isn't just limited to Spectrasonics!

I have a 2010 Subaru. The 2015 model costs the same amount as I paid for my old one, and looks much nicer than my old one. But when I went to the dealership said I should be given a new car for at least half off because I have this five year old model, he wouldn't do it.

The nerve!

Oh Please, stop being silly, we all know hardware is different but if you want to use that analogy, you can trade in your 2010 against the 2015 and pay less.

I completely agree with you. I can trade in my 2010 Subaru and get the 2015 for about half off. If only Spectrasonics would do the same...