Diva vs Analogue - a real world test

[Frantz]

Anyway, your trick motivated me to take another look at Diva and make a short comparison to Monark:
http://vk.com/wall161447783_2957

It helps disprove your theory that Monark is better than Diva at extreme sounds. I don't have a preference of A or B in this example.

I agree that Monark is quicker and less fiddly than Diva. You can dial in the basic sound in seconds. I think another Monark advantage is that you can combine Feedback and Load to create aggressive sounds that Diva can't match.

However, I think Monark could be greatly improved with velocity sensitivity, polyphony, and unison. Since you are not fixated on replicating the original, why keep these limitations? It would also be helpful if it displayed numeric values for the knobs somewhere -- particularly for oscillator detune.

[bmrzycki]

No one spotted that the clips were made using Diva (it's in the track descriptions on soundcloud). ... How's that for a real world test?

Nice one hakey! Further proof the emperor has no clothes.

When I listened to those demos I thought once or twice, "Surely Diva makes sounds comparable to those, I've done it before...". Good to know I wasn't hallucinating again.

[Ogopogo]

Yes, thank you analogue. I found it very informative.

[noiseboyuk]

This thread needs to get out more.

[Hank the Knife]

Can't believe this. The KVR devs and preset heroes didn't dare to say A or B.
While A is obvious the OB and sounds waaaaay better. However, this is just my true subjective humble opinion. I lmao when I'm wrong

[Synthetic Wav]

Really have some doubt how you programed the sounds.. to avantage one more than the other ect.. you obviously not neutral , you would try to make diva sound the best possible and programing in a way that people think it s the analog or maybe i m little paranoiac

i take the test just for fun and couldn't care less which is which but i have done many comparaison by myself and i know how easy is to avantage one choice more than a other , i did more with eq and comps and saturation/disortion and for example one can really make a freeware comp sound better than one costing 2000 $$$ , if one want to demonstrate plugins are just as good , there is obviously some spot where it can be very close or where the plugin will be better sounding , it s easy to make what you want to sound best be the best

[lnikj]

I thought the question was: which is hardware and which is a plugin? This has a factual answer.

Which one sounds best? This is a value judgement.

[Synthetic Wav]

true, but the one sounding best had to be the hardware for many , including me as i usually enjoy more hardware if i want analog sound.

there i really have no clue which is which. both present some analog caractere even if it's different ones, both have their pro and cons ,but i wonder if some analog caracteristic haven't been exaggerated in the way it s programed to try to fool many , could be..

i edited my post cause i wrote on synth A but it s also true for synth B so dont make any sense

To me it's synth A that exibit the most of the adjective people use to describe analog and it's the synth most choosed as hardware it seems but to me there is a hic..the sound just don't touch me, i listen more with my heart than ears that type of stuff , analog sound touch me in a special way that digital can t or not as much.. (i m consient there could be some placebo in their and i want to mention i m not a die hard analog fan, i use way more digital synth ,digital processing and fx everyday ), it make me think diva has been programed to sound more analog than these real analog synths but still can't touch some of the caracteistic of it..but i would be happy to be wrong.

[lnikj]

Agreed, but in the crusade here against the OP for his possible commercial motives, I think it would be stretching it a bit to accuse of him of trying to make the hardware sound 'bad'.

[fischkopf]

Will this guy ever reveal which was which?

[fateamenabletochange]

A is cake. B is pudding.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[pdxindy]

My guess - A is the OB and B is Diva

Some examples I liked A better and some I liked B better, but overall I liked A better.

Some comments

Regardless of which is which, Diva does well, especially considering it does not even emulate an OB

I used to have an OB and if I could have it or Diva, I'd rather have Diva. Far more flexibility and sonic diversity.

I appreciate the OP putting this example together. I think the surprising amount of personal attacks against the OP are entirely unwarranted. There has been a lot of rude, mean-spirited commentary directed at the OP and others. It's simply a fun comparison on a music forum... one might think the topic was people being tortured, war, economic inequality or other such that actually affects real lives...

[EnGee]

For me it is really just a nice game! That's all! I'm eager to know the result as much as I'm curious to know what will happen after I open that door in .... a video game

What prevents the OP from saying the synth that most of us voted as analog is Diva? Then all of us would say "Oh Wow! I really never ever thought that! Gimme Gimme Gimme". I mean the purpose after all is to sell us the presets, right? OK, maybe not, but would he/she show us in a video all the process has been done to program the presets in both the OB and Diva? I doubt that! Sorry, but I don't trust someone just because he/she says so! So, it is a game for me because I find it entertaining (like some programs as 'Master Chef' or whatever, who will win? who will win?) That's it!

Another thing, is Diva a new synth? I found it strange that people feel so surprised that it sounds so good!! It is not only the one out there that sounds great! But it is from the best analog modelling synths that emulate analog synths. What's new about it?!

In my opinion, this thread belongs to Soundware forum. It was just a clever move from the OP to have it in the instruments forum instead, as its main purpose is to sell (indirectly maybe) presets for Diva but covered in a 'scientific' clothes (like this wolf we know about when we were kids which was emulating sheep )

[Urs]

true, but the one sounding best had to be the hardware for many

Thats the depressing truth. Many people still assume that analogue synths have the superior sound in tests like these. Many people still want the software to fail, to confirm their bias. It's very easy to predict that, once the result is unveiled, a whole bunch of posts will be about nothing less than pointing out what those failures are. Thankfully though, this paradigm crumbles.