Diva vs Analogue - a real world test

[whyterabbyt]

Sure, this means that I've represented Xils -pro bono- on the forum for around two years.

Its every third of your posts averaged over five years. 'Represented' doesnt quite cover it.

Anything else a bit less obvious you dont understand ?

Maybe your rather sad need to PM me with insults simultaneous to this reply. Rather two-faced, that. Would you like me to respond in kind?

+ please mention ALL the synths I've talked about ( there are TONS of other synths I've talked about ). Spend more time on me, you lazy. Make your job done right. THis is really less than half baked. We want the komplete list ( fm8, massive, Diversion, take the Waldorf synths iterations also (Nave, Largo) not just the company name , the Korgs, well : Everything)

But the point is not how many posts you've made mentioning other synth companies, or an exhaustive list of synths. Its the proportion of the posts relative to how frequently you pimp Xils. Because you'd just said you talked about other synths frequently. And actually, in comparison, no you dont.

My point on the proportion stands, unless you want to actually volunteer something you've mentioned even close to as often.

and dont fake your statitics to make them say *something*

well, yes, i admit i did fake them a little bit. i added stuff together, like the u-he synths, so the numbers didnt look quite as bad for you.

[david.beholder]

Maybe your rather sad need to PM me with insults simultaneous to this reply. Rather two-faced, that. Would you like me to respond in kind?

He is hypocrite and I have an example that he saying and doing absolutely different things.

[stillshaded]

Jeez... Does every single thread have to degenerate into the most juvenile nonsense? I don't know why i ask. The answer is clearly yes.

[ccDuckett]

Ever click on a forum thread from the "What's New" bar, knowing that the original subject has long been abandoned, just out of a perverse morbid sense of curiosity?

This has been one of those times.

[IncarnateX]

Yeah. We all know Ltz can be a spam bot. No need to prove that. However, he is just as clearly in love with the synths he is spamming, so profit orientation and synth interests go hand in hand as a happily married couple.

I' d rather read more about people's believes why they failed or got it right and see some more entertaining abuse of the test conditions and numbers.

What were the results anyway (omitting the guesses AFTER publication of results naturally)?

Give me the numbers and I will calculate the sample strength to see if it can state anything at all (generously ignoring the obvious chance of accumulated bias, contamination of pure guessing, and setting the size of population equal to the sum of responses)

[aciddose]

Yes, we really need a definition of "warm"
I said in another thread that to me Synthmaster sounded cold and harsh compared to Sylenth, that didn't go down well and someone claimed the exact opposite

We should ask AD to come up with the definition of 'warm' then.

I don't need to.

"Warm" refers to the fact that when home audio equipment first became available to the masses, amplifiers were based upon very simple (I.E. cheap) tube circuits.

Tubes in these cases were often dependent upon temperature. They had a heater in order to control the temperature to ensure stable operation.

Other components such as capacitors and resistors are also temperature dependent.

Until the device was "warm" it would be operating out of the range it was designed for. You might experience clipping, filters would be at the wrong frequency and gain would be incorrect.

Very roughly speaking, "warm" actually translates to "loud".

(edit: hit edit rather than quote without realizing.)

[aciddose]

So, this thread demonstrated that most of the voters are clueless or careless (or both) regarding the skills and knowledge required to identify the source of the recordings.

I already knew that.

And you proved your 'superiority' again....

What does my post have to do with superiority? Care to explain?

[scintillator]

Very roughly speaking, "warm" actually translates to "loud".

Maybe where you live/among the people you're mates with.

But in real life, if I have a Sylenth1 patch that plays at 10-20 db less than a Largo patch, the Sylenth one will still be 'warm' and the Largo one - 'cold'.

So maybe there's more than one definition/meaning of 'warm' in the dictionary.


BTW what happened to Xhip alpha? Please don't pay attention to assholes being assholes and bring it back. Some of us are actually interested in it.

[aciddose]

That's fine, but I'm referring to the etymology of the word.

Ultimately people misuse words almost without fail. To understand what any individual is actually saying requires subjective interpretation.

A lot of people might have trouble reading a well written paper or other technical documentation. These are written in an attempt to make their meaning as clear as possible, the consequence of which is that it requires significant knowledge and skill to interpret them correctly.

[aciddose]

Regarding Xhip, it hasn't gone anywhere. I locked the thread and removed some links from the page to prevent people misunderstanding the situation.

I decided that posting on KVR is not productive. I won't find any real help from anyone here, although I do find a bit it isn't often significant enough to counter-balance the expense of participating in a thread about it. If people want to discuss it among themselves they are free to do so.

It is a hobby project I've maintained for over a decade at this point (approximately 16 years) and while working on it is sometimes a choice I make, I often have better things to do.

[aciddose]

Until the device was "warm" it would be operating out of the range it was designed for.

In other words the term is used subjectively to mean a wide variety of things but can be summed up as:

• cold - "sounds wrong"
• warm - "sounds right"

So the term itself isn't such a problem, the real issue is the fact it is subjective and so without knowing where someone is coming from when they use it, essentially it means nothing at all. It's the same as saying "it sounds _______". Not much useful information in such a statement

[fluffy_little_something]

I don't agree at all that warm means loud, not even very roughly.
The only connection between warm and loud I see is that I can take warm sounds louder than cold sounds.
I think warm has more to do with certain frequency content. Cold to me is the first step towards harsh and metallic. Metallic comes from metal obviously, which might suggest striking metal, percussion etc., sounds which are different from string sounds, not only in terms of frequencies and transients, but also in terms of duration.

[trimph1]

Sort of like Survival Research Lab's work...

[Mutant]

I decided that posting on KVR is not productive. I won't find any real help from anyone here

Makes me sad...
Come on, just mute the ones who don't like you and often attack you and reopen the thread.
Me and scintillator can't be the only 2 to see how good Xhip is.

[wagtunes]

I decided that posting on KVR is not productive. I won't find any real help from anyone here

Makes me sad...
Come on, just mute the ones who don't like you and often attack you and reopen the thread.
Me and scintillator can't be the only 2 to see how good Xhip is.

I agree. I think Xhip is a fine synth though I don't get much time to do anything with it because of work. Maybe someday soon.

On the other hand, I grow tired of the constant sniping and bickering that goes on here and don't really participate in threads as much as I did when I first got here and really loved this place. My daily post count has dropped considerably.

Of course that also means I get more work done. So maybe that's a good thing.