u-he rePro in the works

[Lejurai]

I would also like to follow up on the debate of whether or not it makes sense to continue doing emulations of analogue synths.

Personally I don't care, as long as your products sound the best in the market

But what I'd like to see from you.. More emulations of course, pure digitals that have that U-He vibe that no other virtuals have, and my long time favorite request.. Emulation of an analog drum machine with some U-He twists ^^

[Lejurai]

And have to add a thank you once more. ProtoVerb is super. I use it on everything ^^

[AnX]

Quantec Room Simulator. Yardstick hardware reverb box.

Cheers. Havent heard of it.

[hakey]

Moore's law capped out on us.

According to Gordon Moore (May 2015) -

"Five to 10 years is reasonably clear [...] And then it looks like you hit an insurmountable barrier, but that's been the case for the past 30 years."

Even when the 5nm node size is reached, there are other ways to match the cost/performance corollary of Moore's Law - 3D architecture, spintronics, parallel processing, higher clock speeds...

5 years from now we might already have the first quantum computers

We already have them. D-Wave is into its 2nd generation.

There are supposed to be fusion reactors in 20-30 years too.

There's a fair chance we'll see break even fusion within ten years - could be any of: ITER, General Fusion, LPPF/Focus Fusion, Wendelstein 7-X, Lockheed Martin and probably a few others (the Chinese look to be building their own ITER style reactor).

With the steadily falling cost of renewable energy and the move away from centralised power to distributed networks, the question is whether there's a need for fusion.

[fluffy_little_something]

Since it is NOT a natural law, of course it will only apply for so long.

[hakey]

Since it is NOT a natural law, of course it will only apply for so long.

It's unlikely to hold for ever, but it hasn't 'capped out' yet.

[hakey]

Slightly more on topic - the future projects Urs has talked about rely upon faster processing. Presumably, he believes that Moore's law will hold for a few years?

[Taurus]

CPU Power will not grow the next years. Maybe for some highend desktop PCs but more and more people will use only laptops and Surface like tablets. Therefore Software witch needs low ressource requiremens will win the race.

[fluffy_little_something]

Maybe there will be a deepening rift between the mobile and the desktop world. Why would I want to run an extreme CPU guzzler on a tablet? Conversely, there is no need for mobile devices in a professional environment, where performance is key.

And what about distributed computing? Weren't there plans for mighty remote computers doing demanding computations on demand and then delivering the results to customers via the Internet? But I suppose that is not in real time, so not of much use in music making.

[studiowaveform]

What about CUDA?

[BDeep]

And what about distributed computing? Weren't there plans for mighty remote computers doing demanding computations on demand and then delivering the results to customers via the Internet? But I suppose that is not in real time, so not of much use in music making.

That idea is almost as old as computing itself, be it in various forms. And actually, Sony now offers online gaming which is streamed, so it can actually be done (latency is an issue in gaming as well obviously). Big fat disclaimer though, I haven't used it, so it's well possible that in practice it's utter crap

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

A poly Pro-One might be a better emulation goal.

What he said.

Reading this site got me totally stoked for this release:
http://greatsynthesizers.com/en/test/se ... onophonic/

Hmmm... that description is a bit over the top. The Pro One isn't exactly the greatest/phattest/cleanest/smoothest sounding synthesizer of all times. But it is very flexible, making it a good workhorse mono synth.

Way to throw a bucket of cold water on my excitement!

Further proof Urs isn't motivated by marketing forces. Otherwise, he would have confirmed everything they say on that site about the Pro One being the greatest mono synth ever is true.

[PAK]

Slightly more on topic - the future projects Urs has talked about rely upon faster processing. Presumably, he believes that Moore's law will hold for a few years?

A slow down doesn't mean it's stopped. But does it matter much if the results are unaffordable to most people?

You'll see all the lower power ultra-book type stuff passed on quickly, since Intel's still trying to compete against ARM (and worried for the day the likes of Apple might switch its laptops). But how about anything beyond 4 cores, at higher clocks?

BTW Nobody wants to see situations where CPU use makes you not want to use something. But it'd also be a shame for devs to feel like they have to limit themselves too early. It's worth saying that the upcoming 10 core i7 6950X should (!) be able to get more than 128 voices of polyphony at great quality from Diva at low (sub 5ms) latency. Course, it'll cost $1500 (Maybe $1000 if Intel take pity.. )

So, if someone really wants to push the boat out on a mono synth, there is arguably still quite a bit of room for doing that! It also doesn't count that there are likely to be more ways to reduce CPU usage. EG FXPansion seem pretty proud of the gains they got from using AVX instructions.

It seems like most are more forgiving of higher CPU usage from mono synths too. At least I didn't see too many howls about the monophonic Roland Aira synths Vs their System 1 VST

[fluffy_little_something]

If I were a professional, I would not care if it cost 1000 or 1500 or even 2000 bucks, frankly
Makes me wonder how many people using very demanding synths actually are professionals. I assume the majority are not and use them on mediocre computers.

[beely]

I'm not sure people people are questioning what Urs decides to do?

He's got a successful independant company, the freedom to explore what he finds interesting and thinks may have value, pursues research and understanding to implement technologies that result in better products.

He kinda knows what he's doing, chaps - I don't think he really needs any advice...