Repro-1 (out now)
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- KVRAF
- 6241 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from right here, as you can see ...
filter type 3, by far... closely followed by type 2, which is kinda close, but behaves a bit weird when frequency modulated with hig pitch at cutoff close to nyquist - or better said, close to the point when it leaves the audible range at full resonance.
filter type 1 is... hmmm... interresting, but needs optimisation at full resonance at high cutoffs - it aliases (or does strange noises) all over the place.
filter types 4 and 5 did not click with me, though i cannot say, why that is. maybe simply because to me 2 and moreover 3 do sound significantly better over the whole range, with whatever resonance levels and drastic modulations...
filter type 1 is... hmmm... interresting, but needs optimisation at full resonance at high cutoffs - it aliases (or does strange noises) all over the place.
filter types 4 and 5 did not click with me, though i cannot say, why that is. maybe simply because to me 2 and moreover 3 do sound significantly better over the whole range, with whatever resonance levels and drastic modulations...
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- KVRer
- 9 posts since 13 Apr, 2016
Well you learn something new everyday... time for another experiment;)Urs wrote:StarskyCarr wrote:
The Pro-One can be exceptionally stable in filter frequency though, as are a few other Curtis based filters I've got around. However, my Pro-One goes up (!) in frequency by about 25 Cents when dialing resonance from 6 to 10. From the examples that we got sent, most were rather stable but some went down by as much as a fourth.
In my experiments, very small changes to some voltages and resistor values can have a huge effect on the dependency of frequency and resonance.
I bought the Pro-One after purchasing Wave Alchemy's Pro II - loved it so much I bought the real thing. I'll definitely be buying a Repro, big fan of U-he and a big fan of the Pro-One - resistance is futile
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- KVRer
- 29 posts since 22 Jul, 2014
Like Filter 4 the best. Made a small soundpack with some patches for the communty. Check em out.
This synth sounds amazing with some effects. A soundsample is on my page.
Dry it's of course a lil bit uninspiring at first.
http://www.themusicproducerblog.com/201 ... dpack.html
I wonder if there's gonna be polyphonic mode...well I hope it
This synth sounds amazing with some effects. A soundsample is on my page.
Dry it's of course a lil bit uninspiring at first.
http://www.themusicproducerblog.com/201 ... dpack.html
I wonder if there's gonna be polyphonic mode...well I hope it
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- KVRAF
- 2110 posts since 5 Oct, 2015 from Swedish / Living in Hong Kong
Just assign 7 tracks or so in your DAW and ..there you have itpdxindy wrote:nope... monophonic onlythemusicproducerblog wrote:
I wonder if there's gonna be polyphonic mode...well I hope it
Win 10 -64bit, CPU i7-7700K, 32Gb, Focusrite 2i2, FL-studio 20, Studio One 4, Reason 10
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themusicproducerblog themusicproducerblog https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=334699
- KVRer
- 29 posts since 22 Jul, 2014
Yeah already did it with the Roland Plugout Synths. Funny Thing is the CPU was only at 35% with 8 voices/plugins (one voice was about 25%)ATN69 wrote:Just assign 7 tracks or so in your DAW and ..there you have itpdxindy wrote:nope... monophonic onlythemusicproducerblog wrote:
I wonder if there's gonna be polyphonic mode...well I hope it
- KVRAF
- 2110 posts since 5 Oct, 2015 from Swedish / Living in Hong Kong
Thats Amazingthemusicproducerblog wrote:Yeah already did it with the Roland Plugout Synths. Funny Thing is the CPU was only at 35% with 8 voices/plugins (one voice was about 25%)ATN69 wrote:Just assign 7 tracks or so in your DAW and ..there you have itpdxindy wrote:nope... monophonic onlythemusicproducerblog wrote:
I wonder if there's gonna be polyphonic mode...well I hope it
Win 10 -64bit, CPU i7-7700K, 32Gb, Focusrite 2i2, FL-studio 20, Studio One 4, Reason 10
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30180 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Cat out of the bag: We're contemplating (read: not promising anything) the design of a polyphonic MIDI module that can host a small number of RePros. Maybe just enough to play a chord. However this idea stands or falls with the ability to provide CV input connectivity - which is a major hassle in plug-in-land. In actual fact, it might never happen, or if it happens, maybe not in the best way we would have loved to.themusicproducerblog wrote:I wonder if there's gonna be polyphonic mode...well I hope it
Nevertheless. RePro has been started as a Research Project on many levels. Apart from filter stuff we're also evaluating the move from control rate to audio rate for any modulation (-> Zebra3, Berlin Modular). Furthermore we're evaluating the move from event-based voice control (MIDI events) to audio stream based voice management (Trigger+Gate+CV), which we hope may minimise the complexity we have faced with voice management in our polyphonic synths. As such, developing a polyphonic MIDI-to-CV converter with proper voice logic is part of the research project, but not necessarily part of this product development.
We'll see...
- KVRAF
- 2110 posts since 5 Oct, 2015 from Swedish / Living in Hong Kong
I been looking for something like RePro and I found a few interesting mono synths but Nothing as sexy as this one. So I sure hope it will be developed, packed and ready for sale in the future. But a less CPU hungry version of courseUrs wrote:Cat out of the bag: We're contemplating (read: not promising anything) the design of a polyphonic MIDI module that can host a small number of RePros. Maybe just enough to play a chord. However this idea stands or falls with the ability to provide CV input connectivity - which is a major hassle in plug-in-land. In actual fact, it might never happen, or if it happens, maybe not in the best way we would have loved to.themusicproducerblog wrote:I wonder if there's gonna be polyphonic mode...well I hope it
Nevertheless. RePro has been started as a Research Project on many levels. Apart from filter stuff we're also evaluating the move from control rate to audio rate for any modulation (-> Zebra3, Berlin Modular). Furthermore we're evaluating the move from event-based voice control (MIDI events) to audio stream based voice management (Trigger+Gate+CV), which we hope may minimise the complexity we have faced with voice management in our polyphonic synths. As such, developing a polyphonic MIDI-to-CV converter with proper voice logic is part of the research project, but not necessarily part of this product development.
We'll see...
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- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30180 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
It'll be much less CPU hungry - I can promise thatATN69 wrote:a less CPU hungry version of course
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- KVRAF
- 1724 posts since 10 Feb, 2008 from Berlin, Germany
Can you tell us, how much difference there is between the CPU drain of the different filter-models?
Does the heaviest need twice as much as the next one, or are they rather close?
Does the heaviest need twice as much as the next one, or are they rather close?
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30180 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
I can not say yet. There's a lot of tweaking potential left in there, I'm confident we'll get it down dramatically from what it is right now. Before the switchable filter we have now I did an optimised version of the most expensive one in a test project. With that I could play 16 voice polyphonic on a single core without a problem, but there were some changes later on.Nokenoku wrote:Can you tell us, how much difference there is between the CPU drain of the different filter-models?
Does the heaviest need twice as much as the next one, or are they rather close?
Thing is, this filter needs only about half the number of non-linear calculations as opposed to a ladder filter, but those computations themselves are a tad more expensive and require a bit more oversampling. Which in total I think is still faster than calculating a Moog filter at same quality.
- KVRAF
- 18353 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
OK. I think it's time to hear the results. Which filter was the most expensive? Which the cheapest?
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- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30180 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
I can't just tell. I need to explain. It'll be a loooong post, possibly to be conceived during a weekend shift.zerocrossing wrote:OK. I think it's time to hear the results. Which filter was the most expensive? Which the cheapest?
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- KVRist
- 255 posts since 21 Nov, 2011 from France
I am confused here. Do you mean you are thinking about developping a sort of software rack where we could load many instances of RePro at once and play them like a polyphonic keyboard? A sort of Oberheim 4-Voice based on RePro?Urs wrote: Cat out of the bag: We're contemplating (read: not promising anything) the design of a polyphonic MIDI module that can host a small number of RePros. Maybe just enough to play a chord. However this idea stands or falls with the ability to provide CV input connectivity - which is a major hassle in plug-in-land. In actual fact, it might never happen, or if it happens, maybe not in the best way we would have loved to.
Nevertheless. RePro has been started as a Research Project on many levels. Apart from filter stuff we're also evaluating the move from control rate to audio rate for any modulation (-> Zebra3, Berlin Modular). Furthermore we're evaluating the move from event-based voice control (MIDI events) to audio stream based voice management (Trigger+Gate+CV), which we hope may minimise the complexity we have faced with voice management in our polyphonic synths. As such, developing a polyphonic MIDI-to-CV converter with proper voice logic is part of the research project, but not necessarily part of this product development.
We'll see...
and about this switch from MIDI events to Trigger+Gate+CV, how would that work in a DAW? just curious, I have no idea how this could be feasible. Or Am I lost and you are thinking about a piece of hardware?

