Well, i meant circumstance about autokill licenses for previous versions (and for hypersonic).Sampleconstruct wrote:c_voltage wrote:Damn, although not bad ) difficult situation
About Windows 7: I have been working today building a bunch of programs, trying granular and wavetable synthesis, and everything have been working like a charm. So far, I have no complaints regarding HALion 6 performance in Windows 7.c_voltage wrote:Well, i meant circumstance about autokill licenses for previous versions (and for hypersonic).Sampleconstruct wrote:c_voltage wrote:Damn, although not bad ) difficult situation
As well as some other moments (uncertainty about win7 support, about reactivation soft elicenser etc).
But, i see that really cool new wavetable system, therefore, difficult choice.
Yes, i heard it is works ok (that's good), well, i meant the fact by itself, about unclear support win7 by steinberg. (Who know what they will answer if you get any problems with h6 in the learning process). From here the uncertainty. Though not as critical level already, but nonetheless, who know.fmr wrote:About Windows 7: I have been working today building a bunch of programs, trying granular and wavetable synthesis, and everything have been working like a charm. So far, I have no complaints regarding HALion 6 performance in Windows 7.
Yes, have heard about it, well, it would be enough for me toofmr wrote: but if they send me a HALion 5 license to work alongside HALion 6 (which I believe they will, according to the message posted in their own forum), that for me would be enough.
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Wait.. now I'm confused about the current discussion.fmr wrote:I am not running Hypersonic 2 anymore (I too started from there, then upgraded to HALion Sonic 2, then HALion 4, then 5, now HALion 6). What I can say is that HALion 6 license, in the current satus, deletes any trace of previous licenses that came before it.
Probably, it's better for you to open a ticket to support in My Steinberg with that question. The more people that raise this question the better. I feel that they should have preserved the information of all the previous licenses that were upgraded, like they do with Cubase and Wavelab.
YESCompyfox wrote: Wait.. now I'm confused about the current discussion.
Let me try to understand it:
- you had Halion 5, which is definitely x86 (32bit) and x64 (64bit)
NO, it installed and is running OK (but just 64-bit, of course)Compyfox wrote: - as there is no 32bit/64bit split on the USB eLicenser, it didn't matter which version you started in your host
- you upgrade to Halion 6, which obviously "updated"/over-wrote your existing license
- Halion 6 refuses to install on Windows 7 (32bit or 64bit?)
Well, I uninstalled, reinstalled, messed things up, deleted, etc. In the end, I got HALion 5 and HALion 6 both installed, and both CAN run. BUT...Compyfox wrote: - Halion 6 did overwrite files from previous Halion versions
As I explained above, after installations, uninstallations and reinstallations, I ended with both installed.Compyfox wrote:
- previous Halion versions (Halion 5) can't be launched anymore, since the main engine DLL got "overwritten" (probably also same ID, so a simple DLL change wouldn't help)
Actually, I tried in the same system, and also in another system, but yes, HALion 5 didn't recognize the license, tehrefore, I had to abort launching.Compyfox wrote: - you tried the USB key on another rig with Halion 5 - and the available license won't be accepted
Well, upgrades always have to be installed where the previous license is. So, I don't see how they can change from the eLicenser to a Soft eLicenser during an upgrade. But yes, I agree. Next time they launch a new product, I have to ask previously if the upgrade will delete my previous licenses (unless they learn their lesson and don't do that again). As I said, Steinberg always respected previous licenses, and the upgrade license was always "incremental" allowing to run everything that was previously authorized. It was like this with previous licenses of HALion, as well as with Cubase and Wavelab. What happened with HALion 6, however, is frightening.Compyfox wrote:
I however now fear that any future CubEndo/Wavelab/Dorico/Sequel Updates will also refuse to "lauch" parallel installed hosts for backwards compatibility sakes and force users to new versions. Even if they're inferior or sluggish running (early adopters, etc).
And since there is no day-1-demo for their tools still(!!!)....
Receipt for disaster IMO...
Unless I'm missing something crucial here. Like "HDD/Soft eLicenser only", or a certian tool combination that triggered the "license loss". Either way - definitely not a cool move and I do understand the frustration.
Not at all, Hypersonic is one of the few 32 bit plugins I have left that's worth keeping but the fact that it is 32 bit is kindof incidental, I just think it's a great plugin and that I've been cheated out of it.fmr wrote:So 32-bit is not an issue for you?aMUSEd wrote:As long as it also supports Hypersonic, not actually bothered about H5.
I agree about Anima, the presets are really awful, mostly too aggressive and crude for me. I have only found one that I rated 4. But Skylab has lots of patches I love and many rated 4 and 5.wickfut wrote:After a good mess about with this I must say that the supplied Anima and Skylab presets are completely uninspiring and the pdf manual might as well be written in serbo croat.
So what's the difference between Skylab and Auron apart from the GUI?aMUSEd wrote:I agree about Anima, the presets are really awful, mostly too aggressive and crude for me. I have only found one that I rated 4. But Skylab has lots of patches I love and many rated 4 and 5.wickfut wrote:After a good mess about with this I must say that the supplied Anima and Skylab presets are completely uninspiring and the pdf manual might as well be written in serbo croat.
This is what I try to understand here as well.fmr wrote:Well, upgrades always have to be installed where the previous license is. So, I don't see how they can change from the eLicenser to a Soft eLicenser during an upgrade.
I definitely agree on the frightening part.fmr wrote:But yes, I agree. Next time they launch a new product, I have to ask previously if the upgrade will delete my previous licenses (unless they learn their lesson and don't do that again). As I said, Steinberg always respected previous licenses, and the upgrade license was always "incremental" allowing to run everything that was previously authorized. It was like this with previous licenses of HALion, as well as with Cubase and Wavelab. What happened with HALion 6, however, is frightening.
Not much, tbh I wish they had just incorporated Padshop into it (but with multsamples) then I could share patcheswickfut wrote:So what's the difference between Skylab and Auron apart from the GUI?aMUSEd wrote:I agree about Anima, the presets are really awful, mostly too aggressive and crude for me. I have only found one that I rated 4. But Skylab has lots of patches I love and many rated 4 and 5.wickfut wrote:After a good mess about with this I must say that the supplied Anima and Skylab presets are completely uninspiring and the pdf manual might as well be written in serbo croat.
It's not a hiccup, it's a complete choke. I managed to have HALion 5 installed, but it doesn't run, because currently I have no license for it - just for HALion 6. What I said is that it is ready to run, because it starts OK, but when it reaches the part where it would open the main screen, I get an error message telling me that no valid license was detected and asking me to cancelCompyfox wrote:Okay, so let me summarize once more (fmr):
- Halion (whichever version) works in x64 (Steinberg started to drop 32bit)
- you could install and run both Halion 5 and 6 in parallel
- it didn't work "prior" due to reasons unknown, but now it works (even without a special re-addressed license)
So it's a hiccup, albeit understandably not a good one.
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