KVR Audio

adydub · Post by **adydub** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:16 pm

For me Pianoteq is something of a benchmark in terms of sound and sophistication for physical modelling based instruments. I regularly use the AAS derived physical modelling instruments in Live, but they are a long way from the cutting edge and sound pretty crude compared to Pianoteq.

I'm planning on checking put Madrona Labs Kaivo, but was wondering what else was out there that's based on physical modelling, but takes a step up from the previous generation?

Krakatau · Post by **Krakatau** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:30 pm

check this out, for instance :

https://physicalaudio.co.uk/PA3.html

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:48 pm

Modelonia is great, but needs finesse and a nice convolution reverb:
http://www.nusofting.liqihsynth.com/modelonia.html
Also this hybrid with lots of control:
http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/swam_saxophones.php
And this is sort of vocal modeling:
http://wolfgangpalm.com/phonem.html

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:10 pm

I still find Sculpture the best from all in general.
But of course there are better ones for some specific areas like Pianoteq, Chromaphone etc.
However i did never find any tool which could change timbres in such an "organic" and interesting way in realtime like Sculpture.
My second fav is Reaktor Prism, then Chromaphone, then maybe Pianoteq which is of course the best for piano and similar key sounds but still could not replace a thing like Keyscapes for me.
Some other interesting things are the Finger Fiddle app for iOS which has a great GUI and a good engine to emulate strings (violin, viola, cello, double bass).
I also really like the Reaktor ensemble Serenade 3 which is similar to Finger Fiddle (the GUI is not as good but with automations it can create awesome things).
In general i really miss the next thing in terms of physical modeling. I´m still waiting for a kind of Sculpture 2.

woggle · Post by **woggle** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:13 pm

adydub wrote:
I'm planning on checking put Madrona Labs Kaivo, but was wondering what else was out there that's based on physical modelling, but takes a step up from the previous generation?

Kaivo is great

jeffb01 · Post by **jeffb01** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:51 pm

Modo bass by IK multimedia impressed me.

Armagibbon · Post by **Armagibbon** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:53 pm

jeffb01 wrote:Modo bass by IK multimedia impressed me.

Came here to post this.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:07 pm

jeffb01 wrote:Modo bass by IK multimedia impressed me.

Yeah, MODO Bass really does rock. It's the only non synth bass I use anymore.

Vortifex · Post by **Vortifex** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:16 pm

adydub · Post by **adydub** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:02 pm

Krakatau wrote:check this out, for instance :

https://physicalaudio.co.uk/PA3.html

This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for, thank you!

tatanka · Post by **tatanka** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:37 pm

This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for, thank you!

Mac only

this one sounds really great, what a pity.....

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:45 pm

woggle wrote:
adydub wrote:
I'm planning on checking put Madrona Labs Kaivo, but was wondering what else was out there that's based on physical modelling, but takes a step up from the previous generation?
Kaivo is great

Kaivo is incredible, but some patches will kick your system's ass. I have a quad 2.8 i7 and sometimes it maxes out an entire core.

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:47 pm

Cinebient wrote:I also really like the Reaktor ensemble Serenade 3 which is similar to Finger Fiddle (the GUI is not as good but with automations it can create awesome things)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLkPvmr93K8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2CMq-zIua4

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:50 pm

So let me get this right, you get this AND Alchemy in Logic? All you are missing is true algorithmic analog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rIcWE6Nhns

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:52 pm

If I had Logic I would get Largo and DIVA and call it a day. You done.

Physical modelling in 2017