NI Xmas gift?

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chk071
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17021 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:52 pm

Daags wrote:
chk071 wrote:To be fair
what exactly is unfair about my previous post ?
You blamed the Macbook's hardware entirely.

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Russell Grand
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1316 posts since 22 May, 2017

Re: NI Xmas gift?

Post Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:08 pm

Phasis does some excellent stereo motion, wow! After an extended jam session, I'd have to say it's in my top 5 favorite VST phasers.
Great work, Native Instruments, and thanks for making it an early Xmas gift!

I've contacted NI about the grainy GUI. I'll post here if/when I get a reply.

Daags
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2188 posts since 19 Dec, 2014

Re: NI Xmas gift?

Post Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:45 pm

chk071 wrote:
Daags wrote:
chk071 wrote:To be fair
what exactly is unfair about my previous post ?
You blamed the Macbook's hardware entirely.
entirely ?

absolute horse shit, owing to lack of comprehension or being wilfully disingenuous
Daags wrote:
Cinebient wrote:It is great but my macbook pro shut down because the fans couldn´t handle it anymore.
Must be the most cpu intense plug-in ever :D
I guess it´s not optimized maybe.
well, frankly, it's the macbook pro that's not optimized in its hardware design .... macbook pro has to be thin and sexy and quiet. this means they made significant sacrifices in hardware design heat management methods .... which leads to throttling and your macbook shutting down (wow).

i suspect in your case it's actually the GPU causing the issue, some graphics bug causing the GPU to work overtime and throw off lots of heat that the macbook pro can't manage in conjunction with the CPU throwing off heat too.

my suspicions are well met, with some people reporting that the plugin is using in the region of 20% of their GPU. my observations on macbook hardware design are also on point, should you be bothered to research the topic.

nothing unfair about the post.

chk071
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17021 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: NI Xmas gift?

Post Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:50 pm

I recommend a chill pill nonetheless.

Richard deHove
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330 posts since 23 Mar, 2016

Re: NI Xmas gift?

Post Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:57 pm

Russell Grand wrote:Phasis does some excellent stereo motion, wow! After an extended jam session, I'd have to say it's in my top 5 favorite VST phasers.
Top 5 ? I love phasers but I don't think I've even got 5 installed and am about to try this one. I'm currently settled on PhaseMistress with BigRock a distant second and wishing there was a decent MXR Phase-90 vst. So I have to ask: what are your top five?

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Daru925
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190 posts since 20 Mar, 2015 from Nerima, Tokyo

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Post Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:02 pm

I installed it, it works, i like the sound, and my pc hasn't caught fire yet. I will test it on my laptop then.
Had to deactivate usage tracking though, because a yelling swat team was trying to break the door, and the sound was distracting me a little from auditionning Phasis.
Other than that its all good.
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chk071
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17021 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: NI Xmas gift?

Post Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:09 pm

Daru925 wrote: Had to deactivate usage tracking though, because a yelling swat team was trying to break the door, and the sound was distracting me a little from auditionning Phasis.
:D

Not bad, not bad...

Paree
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198 posts since 21 Jun, 2015 from India

Re: NI Xmas gift?

Post Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:18 pm

If they update it with the GPU fix, it'd be a plugin i regularly use, else MPhaser does the job for me.

Cinebient
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3614 posts since 16 Nov, 2014

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Post Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:30 pm

Daags wrote:
chk071 wrote:To be fair
what exactly is unfair about my previous post ?
It‘s nonsense. Of course it‘s no desktop but i can run 20 instances of Zebra, even about 8 of polyphonic Repro at HQ.
The fans never kick in normally. Just Avenger and now Phasis. It‘s not the macbook.

Paree
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198 posts since 21 Jun, 2015 from India

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Post Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:35 pm

Cinebient wrote:
Daags wrote:
chk071 wrote:To be fair
what exactly is unfair about my previous post ?
It‘s nonsense. Of course it‘s no desktop but i can run 20 instances of Zebra, even about 8 of polyphonic Repro at HQ.
The fans never kick in normally. Just Avenger and now Phasis. It‘s not the macbook.
Surely a graphics bug, but even reaktor runs fine on my system whereas this is grainy and freezes my screen. Im very much into the sound of it since i make Dubstep.

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bftucker
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1076 posts since 30 Apr, 2004 from Louisville, KY

Re: NI Xmas gift?

Post Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:50 pm

:roll: Oh, Man. Grandma gave me socks again. Do I really have to write a thank you note. It will just encourage her to give me socks again next year.

:wink:

(But seriously. Thanks NI.) :tu:
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jancivil
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15335 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

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Post Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:25 pm

Daags wrote: my suspicions are well met, with some people reporting ...
Weasel words. Shite argument accordingly.

I have used Replika and Replika XT on 5 different MBPs. No issues whatsoever. You have not demonstrated anything beyond a supposition that you have and that's supposed to be helped by teh HUGE font size making 'I suspect' stronger and now 'some people report'.

This of course won't diminish your issue, but making it a universal issue is not supported by a logical argument, nor facts. Just sayin'.

felis
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359 posts since 25 Jul, 2009

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Post Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:53 pm

bmanic wrote:This plugin sounds absolutely fantastic! Amazing gift as always from NI! :D
I agree.
I put on a cycled loop and used several sound types while sorting through some of the presets,
and the vast majority of them sounded excellent. Easy to tweak to fit the material too.
Very pleased with it.

ezelkow1
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1598 posts since 16 Jan, 2010 from Denver

Re: NI Xmas gift?

Post Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:48 pm

Paree wrote:
Cinebient wrote:
Daags wrote:
chk071 wrote:To be fair
what exactly is unfair about my previous post ?
It‘s nonsense. Of course it‘s no desktop but i can run 20 instances of Zebra, even about 8 of polyphonic Repro at HQ.
The fans never kick in normally. Just Avenger and now Phasis. It‘s not the macbook.
Surely a graphics bug, but even reaktor runs fine on my system whereas this is grainy and freezes my screen. Im very much into the sound of it since i make Dubstep.
This

You can easily see this on windows since now they give you a gpu usage meter in the taskmgr. I can see replika uses ~5% of my gpu while phasis pushes it to 20% usage while you're tweaking knobs.

This is also on a gtx 1080, so 20% gpu use for a plugin is just ridiculous, that kind of usage on an intel iGPU, along with having less performance overall for opengl (since Im pretty sure thats what NI uses for their new fancy UI'd plugins), could easily cause a ton of issues, especially in a laptop which is much more restricted in cooling than a desktop is

ghettosynth
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11097 posts since 13 Oct, 2009

Re: NI Xmas gift?

Post Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:19 pm

Not working well with the Live 10 Beta, but, I'm assuming that this is related to DPI scaling on Windows as it works fine in 9.5. Well, fine means pixelated and grainy, but it sounds good.

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