digital synthesizer that is most analogy?

[killmaster]

thanks everyone. Just from the responses, I understand better about how to think about all this.

[medienhexer]

You might want to look into additive resynthesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lrcy_wkcpw

Perhaps spectral re-synthesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-3atLSbUlM

Or perhaps granular synthesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6WWAGZF12M&t=15s

[killmaster]

You might want to look into additive resynthesis:

Great! thanks a lot!

[Tj Shredder]

I'm not 100% sure how to ask this since its a little technical, but I'm look to find a synth that creates sounds with the most samples. I don't really care about CPU load, just want to get the most high quality analog resolution. My intention is to record and massively stretch the sound so wanting as many sample/subsamples as possible. When I stretch, I want the sound to interpolate as little as possible.

I do have Repro and was thinking maybe that would do the trick. But I really know nothing about how digital synths actually work in this regard.

You want to look into granular synthesis or a phase vocoder. That would be able to strech existing samples. The topic you choose doesn't really fit here, its as far away from analog as, you can be. Sampling is the opposite of synthesis in a way, though samples can be processed in an "analog" way by filtering and so on...

I don't know how you try to use Repro, a pure synthesizer. There is nothing to strech, if you want the sound to be longer, just keep the key pressed... If you want it lower, just play a lower key...

[killmaster]

I'm not 100% sure how to ask this since its a little technical, but I'm look to find a synth that creates sounds with the most samples. I don't really care about CPU load, just want to get the most high quality analog resolution. My intention is to record and massively stretch the sound so wanting as many sample/subsamples as possible. When I stretch, I want the sound to interpolate as little as possible.

I do have Repro and was thinking maybe that would do the trick. But I really know nothing about how digital synths actually work in this regard.

You want to look into granular synthesis or a phase vocoder. That would be able to strech existing samples. The topic you choose doesn't really fit here, its as far away from analog as, you can be. Sampling is the opposite of synthesis in a way, though samples can be processed in an "analog" way by filtering and so on...

I don't know how you try to use Repro, a pure synthesizer. There is nothing to strech, if you want the sound to be longer, just keep the key pressed... If you want it lower, just play a lower key...

Yeh, guess the subject line is really not accurate. Now I get it. In any case, if you read what I wrote earlier it sort of explains why I can't just keep the key pressed or play a different pitch, or changing the tempo. They sound completely different that stretching the resulting audio. In that song I posted, I took the audio that was just very fast bleep sounds and slowed it down by stretching and got all these beautiful swirling harmonics and other sounds/artifacts. Maybe I don't want super quality. Maybe it would get rid of the best parts!

[killmaster]

You want to look into granular synthesis or a phase vocoder.

I think you hit the nail on the head here...
I'm aware that I didn't really ask a very good question! Somehow, I did get the answer I hoped to get though.

[generaldiomedes]

I think Repro is your answer - I am assuming because it sounds so much better that the waveform is more complex and will sound more interesting when stretched. Thankfully there is a demo you can download.

Korg ARP odyssey is also another one to look at. Since you are on the Mac you might want to look at the P900.

However there also plenty of samples of actual synthesizers and VSTs based off samples that also sound very good.

[killmaster]

I think Repro is your answer - I am assuming because it sounds so much better that the waveform is more complex and will sound more interesting when stretched. Thankfully there is a demo you can download.

Korg ARP odyssey is also another one to look at. Since you are on the Mac you might want to look at the P900.

However there also plenty of samples of actual synthesizers and VSTs based off samples that also sound very good.

thanks Gen. Diomedes!

[killmaster]

You might want to look into additive resynthesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lrcy_wkcpw

Perhaps spectral re-synthesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-3atLSbUlM

Or perhaps granular synthesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6WWAGZF12M&t=15s

Want to thank you again for these video links! Very informative. really enjoying watching these!

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[jancivil]

But, wanting to stretch it out and preserve the quality without smearing I thought might be another consideration...

If you want to stretch it in the sense that the oscillations still happen just as fast as in the original audio (in other words, you hear the same pitch, while also the resulting stretched audio is slower as a whole, as its overall duration increases), you will need an algorithm that creates that extra material -- the extra oscillations you need in order to cover the longer time period. It's not inherent in the waveform itself, no matter how high you boost the sampling rate.

So, in my case, I'm stretching stuff in Bitwig, keeping the same pitch, and getting steppy results. But next month, they are adding Elastique Pro and I'm wondering from what you are saying if Elastique will do a better job filling in the gaps smoothly.

I do a lot of stretching/no pitch change with Elastique Pro in Cubase/Nuendo and it is totally smooth. I use the preset 'Time' for this. But the results of 'Tape' can be fun and useful.