What a ripoff Every all my ilok key necessary give me the liscence key after loss for Free
i got 4 of their plugins so now i have to pay 54.93US(40£ )
Warning about Sonnox Plugins. Lose your Ilok Key Pay 10£(13.73 USD) PER PLUGIN
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- Waaaaahhh
- Topic Starter
- 2224 posts since 30 Jul, 2001 from montreal, quebec,canada
If your plugin is a Synth-edit/synth-maker creation, Say So.
If not Make a Mac version of your Plugins Please.
https://soundcloud.com/realmarco
...everyone is out to get me!!!!!!!
If not Make a Mac version of your Plugins Please.
https://soundcloud.com/realmarco
...everyone is out to get me!!!!!!!
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- KVRAF
- 1672 posts since 3 Aug, 2017 from San Diego, CA
Now THAT's what I call customer service. 
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- KVRAF
- 5564 posts since 13 Jan, 2005 from the bottom of my heart
Maybe it's time to change your signature?
If your plugin cost me money after loss, Say So.
If not make me aware of it Please.
If your plugin cost me money after loss, Say So.
If not make me aware of it Please.
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- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
I think they are saying that all their ilok key developers give license replacements after loss for free [except Sonnox].chk071 wrote:I don't even understand that, to be honest.realmarco wrote:What a ripoff Every all my ilok key necessary give me the liscence key after loss for Free
I say, caveat emptor. buyer beware. Pace makes it clear that on loss you will have to get replacements from the developer and there may be a fee, check with the developer.
It's up to you to look into all the implications of your purchase decisions. Pace makes this clear. You don't have a case.
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- KVRAF
- 2357 posts since 24 Nov, 2012
regardless of the right wing tough guy business is god attitude it seems possible to go through the entire ordering process just up to clicking confirm without being made aware of this fee. I doubt it would stand up in court in more enlightened countries where one has to make reasonable efforts to inform customers of their rights and obligations. Of course it would not be worth your while bothering to challenge.plexuss wrote:I think they are saying that all their ilok key developers give license replacements after loss for free [except Sonnox].chk071 wrote:I don't even understand that, to be honest.realmarco wrote:What a ripoff Every all my ilok key necessary give me the liscence key after loss for Free
I say, caveat emptor. buyer beware. Pace makes it clear that on loss you will have to get replacements from the developer and there may be a fee, check with the developer.
It's up to you to look into all the implications of your purchase decisions. Pace makes this clear. You don't have a case.
Have you contacted Sonnox - if not it may be worthwhile doing so and letting them know their policy is quite harsh compared to most other vendorsrealmarco wrote:What a ripoff Every all my ilok key necessary give me the liscence key after loss for Free
i got 4 of their plugins so now i have to pay 54.93US(40£ )
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- Waaaaahhh
- Topic Starter
- 2224 posts since 30 Jul, 2001 from montreal, quebec,canada
woops Sorry what i was trying to say is thatrealmarco wrote:What a ripoff Every all my ilok key necessary give me the liscence key after loss for Free
i got 4 of their plugins so now i have to pay 54.93US(40£ )
all other ilok-key-necessary-plugins I have are "lost-ilok-now-bought-new-ilok-key-recover-liscence" free
So now for my 4 Sonnox liscences i have to pay 10£ each... so thats 54.93USD (40£)
...what a ripoff !!!
its just Software C'mon !!
If your plugin is a Synth-edit/synth-maker creation, Say So.
If not Make a Mac version of your Plugins Please.
https://soundcloud.com/realmarco
...everyone is out to get me!!!!!!!
If not Make a Mac version of your Plugins Please.
https://soundcloud.com/realmarco
...everyone is out to get me!!!!!!!
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- KVRist
- 354 posts since 17 Apr, 2004
Once again, software companies punishing the people who actually buy their software instead of pirating it. So f**king backwards.
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- KVRist
- 248 posts since 8 Jun, 2016
I have the transmod by sonnox.
while I love it, I do believe that if they keep their polices of resale / high prices / 1 license / and difficulties to handle like the op stated their business might go bad quick.
that's one reasons as why I never bought any other plugin besides envolution. otherwise would have bought some at least. I just downloaded the new sonnox doubler, and it needs to make a ultra huge impact on me for me to consider buying it, but I do know it'll sound at least good.
I agree with the previous post, software companies are punishing the people who actually buy their software. which is kinda scary.
I think it's ok if u enter no brainer territory or if u are big enough like Waves.
on the good side, have to give my thumbs up to companies like plugin alliance and Toontrack. their system is really nice overall for big companies such as them.
while I love it, I do believe that if they keep their polices of resale / high prices / 1 license / and difficulties to handle like the op stated their business might go bad quick.
that's one reasons as why I never bought any other plugin besides envolution. otherwise would have bought some at least. I just downloaded the new sonnox doubler, and it needs to make a ultra huge impact on me for me to consider buying it, but I do know it'll sound at least good.
I agree with the previous post, software companies are punishing the people who actually buy their software. which is kinda scary.
I think it's ok if u enter no brainer territory or if u are big enough like Waves.
on the good side, have to give my thumbs up to companies like plugin alliance and Toontrack. their system is really nice overall for big companies such as them.
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- KVRAF
- 4881 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
My experience of the Sonnox are similar than the author has.
I haven´t lost my iLok, but I own two Sonnox plugins, the Sonnox Oxford Eq and the Sonnox Oxford Inflator.
Once the toppermost of the poppermost. But not anymore, for me.
I bought those back in the 2008, paid for those (about) $ 350. In those days the OS was XP, 32 bit.
When I later moved to the 64 bit DAW, to my surprise, to the contrary 99,5 % developers do, the Sonnox did not give 64 bit plugin update for free of charge, but the Sonnox policy is to charge several tens of dollars for the loyal customer for that update!!! Those who had alreadt paid several hundreds for the plugins.
I refused to pay. This means, I have 2 unused 32 bit Sonnox plugins. And I will never buy any Sonnox plugins.
Was this a succesful policy and the end result, the developer wished? I doubt it. A lot of bad will created, bad publicity, lost customer...
I haven´t lost my iLok, but I own two Sonnox plugins, the Sonnox Oxford Eq and the Sonnox Oxford Inflator.
Once the toppermost of the poppermost. But not anymore, for me.
I bought those back in the 2008, paid for those (about) $ 350. In those days the OS was XP, 32 bit.
When I later moved to the 64 bit DAW, to my surprise, to the contrary 99,5 % developers do, the Sonnox did not give 64 bit plugin update for free of charge, but the Sonnox policy is to charge several tens of dollars for the loyal customer for that update!!! Those who had alreadt paid several hundreds for the plugins.
I refused to pay. This means, I have 2 unused 32 bit Sonnox plugins. And I will never buy any Sonnox plugins.
Was this a succesful policy and the end result, the developer wished? I doubt it. A lot of bad will created, bad publicity, lost customer...
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- KVRian
- 789 posts since 13 Aug, 2012 from it's all about location!
Don't buy shit. If you bought shit, don't complain. If you bought shit and didn't know, too bad. 
And yes, iLok is shit. No matter the developer.
This doesn't only "protect" software; it protects developers from more customers. And every customer pays for it.
Doesn't Plugin Alliance use the Waves copy protection?
And yes, iLok is shit. No matter the developer.
This doesn't only "protect" software; it protects developers from more customers. And every customer pays for it.
Doesn't Plugin Alliance use the Waves copy protection?
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- KVRAF
- 4881 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
TheKid wrote:Don't buy shit. If you bought shit, don't complain. If you bought shit and didn't know, too bad.
And yes, iLok is shit. No matter the developer.
This doesn't only "protect" software; it protects developers from more customers. And every customer pays for it.
Doesn't Plugin Alliance use the Waves copy protection?
This was not supposed to be, once again, a iLok filth casting contest. But for the above:
Bad advice. I rather install one well made auhtorization, if (and when) there must be one, than 57 different, separate developer authorization software - you multiply the risk that some or these additional software creates a security risk or slows down your computer. Its simply math.
