"Where does artistry end and copycat cut and paste begin?"

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thecontrolcentre
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23005 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:45 am

Winstontaneous wrote:
Hink wrote:
JerGoertz wrote:Most popular music I've heard from recent years is shit anyways.
said every generation eva :hihi:
Yup, that translates directly as "I'm getting old and don't know how to find the good stuff like in my glory days" :help:
I get recommendations from my kids. My son has great taste in music ... 8)

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jancivil
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15335 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: "Where does artistry end and copycat cut and paste begin?"

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:37 pm

Winstontaneous wrote:
Hink wrote:
JerGoertz wrote:Most popular music I've heard from recent years is shit anyways.
said every generation eva :hihi:
Yup, that translates directly as "I'm getting old and don't know how to find the good stuff like in my glory days" :help:
I can only speak for myself. I have a much easier time today finding great music BECAUSE YOUTUBE, and I'm absolutely convinced music for consumption is _vastly_ worse today than at any time in my life. I was born in 1956.

JerGoertz
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2087 posts since 20 Feb, 2004

Re: "Where does artistry end and copycat cut and paste begin?"

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:57 pm

jancivil wrote:
Winstontaneous wrote:
Hink wrote:
JerGoertz wrote:Most popular music I've heard from recent years is shit anyways.
said every generation eva :hihi:
Yup, that translates directly as "I'm getting old and don't know how to find the good stuff like in my glory days" :help:
I can only speak for myself. I have a much easier time today finding great music BECAUSE YOUTUBE, and I'm absolutely convinced music for consumption is _vastly_ worse today than at any time in my life. I was born in 1956.
BAM! I feel the same. I can still find great music, it just ain't in the "modern pop" aisle. Did you see the video somebody did of 2010-ish pop where they cut up a bunch of songs from that era and played them side-by-side? Homogenous crap. Music production tools have never been better, and we've used them to create the most highly polished turds in history. Mirror shine.
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toine6
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1275 posts since 29 Mar, 2002 from Salt Lake City, Utah - U.S.A.

Re: "Where does artistry end and copycat cut and paste begin?"

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:03 pm

jancivil wrote:
Winstontaneous wrote:
Hink wrote:
JerGoertz wrote:Most popular music I've heard from recent years is shit anyways.
said every generation eva :hihi:
Yup, that translates directly as "I'm getting old and don't know how to find the good stuff like in my glory days" :help:
I can only speak for myself. I have a much easier time today finding great music BECAUSE YOUTUBE, and I'm absolutely convinced music for consumption is _vastly_ worse today than at any time in my life. I was born in 1956.
Yes, the consumption music is what's been disappointing. There is so much great stuff out there that very few people are hearing or interested in, but everyone is getting all hot and bothered over the Trump sales pitch. "It's gonna be Yuge, greatest music and band of all time. You're going to love it." I'm ashamed of the mass consumer far too often.

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Hink
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27212 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine

Re: "Where does artistry end and copycat cut and paste begin?"

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:17 pm

still all these comments do go back directly to my point. My parents said the same thing, they still found the music they liked and guess what? They didn't like what was mainstream then and thought it was terrible. For the record I'm talking 60's to mid 70's here (I was born in 59) and really the first album that comes to mind is DSOM. My parents never got it, yet my dad use to buy new Alice Cooper albums for me without my asking for them. I was stunned when I saw an LP under the xmas tree and I could see the green face of Alice Cooper through the wrapping paper on the album cover of "Goes to Hell", which I did not know about until I got it. One good friend's mother (he and I started playing guitar together) was exactly like the voice in "Joe's Garage" "dont you boys know any nice songs" :shrug:
sometimes I feel like I stumbled upon a sea of intelligence...at low tide

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vurt
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37174 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: "Where does artistry end and copycat cut and paste begin?"

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:29 pm

for every beatles there was a cilla...

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kevvvvv
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2182 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from skelmersdale, west lancs, uk

Re: "Where does artistry end and copycat cut and paste begin?"

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:50 pm

wonderful kvr thread this

professional blogger scrounging for new ideas/market research/current opinion gets 3 pages of rubbish answers, so she hides herself and heads off to another forum with fingers crossed for another try

love it :lol:
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thecontrolcentre
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23005 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Re: "Where does artistry end and copycat cut and paste begin?"

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:58 pm

vurt wrote:for every beatles there was a cilla...
Lorra lorra :lol: :lol:

JerGoertz
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Re: "Where does artistry end and copycat cut and paste begin?"

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:10 pm

kevvvvv wrote:wonderful kvr thread this

professional blogger scrounging for new ideas/market research/current opinion gets 3 pages of rubbish answers, so she hides herself and heads off to another forum with fingers crossed for another try

love it :lol:
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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Re: "Where does artistry end and copycat cut and paste begin?"

Post Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:50 am

kevvvvv wrote:wonderful kvr thread this

professional blogger scrounging for new ideas/market research/current opinion gets 3 pages of rubbish answers, so she hides herself and heads off to another forum with fingers crossed for another try

love it :lol:
If anyone wants ideas, to conduct market research, or gauge current opinion, then they should just be upfront about it, and declare that that is their intent. Furthermore, they should commit to responding during the thread, even if only to thank the contributors for their information.

We are not here to be mined :evil: It's up to each forum to decide how they approach these kinds of issues but I would urge for a banning :shrug:

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Michael L
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2358 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from the End of the World as we Knowit

Re: "Where does artistry end and copycat cut and paste begin?"

Post Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:58 am

I think that blogger should be banned for impersonating the young guitarist/singer/songwriter Sarah Command! https://www.commandsisters.com

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kevvvvv
vvvvvvv
2182 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from skelmersdale, west lancs, uk

Re: "Where does artistry end and copycat cut and paste begin?"

Post Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:32 am

el-bo
If anyone wants ideas, to conduct market research, or gauge current opinion, then they should just be upfront about it, and declare that that is their intent. Furthermore, they should commit to responding during the thread, even if only to thank the contributors for their information.
exactly

mind you, I think everyone here saw it coming which is what makes it such fun :lol:

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jancivil
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15335 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: "Where does artistry end and copycat cut and paste begin?"

Post Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:39 pm

Hink wrote:still all these comments do go back directly to my point. My parents said the same thing, they still found the music they liked and guess what? They didn't like what was mainstream then and thought it was terrible. For the record I'm talking 60's to mid 70's here (I was born in 59) and really the first album that comes to mind is DSOM. My parents never got it, yet my dad use to buy new Alice Cooper albums for me without my asking for them. I was stunned when I saw an LP under the xmas tree and I could see the green face of Alice Cooper through the wrapping paper on the album cover of "Goes to Hell", which I did not know about until I got it. One good friend's mother (he and I started playing guitar together) was exactly like the voice in "Joe's Garage" "dont you boys know any nice songs" :shrug:
No, my comment does not circle back to that point. I am not your parents. I am not my parents, albeit my father and I dug many of the same things beginning circa 1970. My mother, being protective and one supposes normally so, went with me to see Hendrix, 5-9-69, and even as she more was the pop music fan and dug eg., Johnny Mathis vs my father and Stan Kenton 'progressive jazz' she found things to like about the thing. I am not a conservative/reactionary at all. I like a couple of Britney Spears records, the songs and the production, and her performance.
So as I find your story entertaining and true for some people, really, my response to it actually disagrees with it as any great truism.

I went thru a teenage music phase and Alice Cooper - the one which you got free paper lacy panties with - and Black Sabbath and other things which I do not care anything about as a grown person.
:shrug: Now, my mother hated some of it because she got sick of hearing it. I never once heard my father go into a rant about rock music. He did really hate country, but I wasn't doing that one. He was a bit snobby about me getting my mother 'Gentle on My Mind' by Glenn Campbell once for her birthday but I liked the song and the album. Oh, postscript, he did not like Stones 'Honky Tonk Woman' on the car radio, because country.

My assessment of the quality of music is generally just objective. Old people can be wise and not just reducible to old fuddy-duddies. People are individuals, albeit sometimes stereotypes are hard to avoid.

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jancivil
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15335 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: "Where does artistry end and copycat cut and paste begin?"

Post Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:53 pm

three pages of rubbish answers
and for such a serious question

:lol:


This is just like the other one about the unoriginality of unoriginality (samples ruining today's "electronic music"), someone regurgitates some shite they read on a blog and it's replicated on more blogs and even finds its way here.

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CrystalWizard
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607 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbiti sw usa

Re: "Where does artistry end and copycat cut and paste begin?"

Post Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:40 pm

There is an amazing amount of good electronic and electro-acoustic music out there today (and everything else). There's a more amazing amount of crap out there also, you just have to dig much deeper to find the stuff you like. Because of the low entry cost of making music (in particular with computers), one has to wade through piles of "cut n paste" crap (and non cut and paste crap.)
kevvvvv wrote:wonderful kvr thread this

professional blogger scrounging for new ideas/market research/current opinion gets 3 pages of rubbish answers, so she hides herself and heads off to another forum with fingers crossed for another try

love it :lol:
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