Spectrasonics sluggish after recent updates?
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- KVRer
- 22 posts since 13 May, 2009 from A field, somewhere in the east of England
Just to add my voice to you all. I thought I was going mad until I found this.
So, diagnostic screeny sent to Spectrasonics 5 days ago. Same problem as everyone here. Even simple wave forms can take several seconds. No word yet, but you're right... my work is being affected here. Working on new projects I'm just moving away from Omnisphere which is a shame.
Trilian load time for Clean Fender - Full Range - 15 sec
Omnisphere 2 - 1:45
Go figure.
So, diagnostic screeny sent to Spectrasonics 5 days ago. Same problem as everyone here. Even simple wave forms can take several seconds. No word yet, but you're right... my work is being affected here. Working on new projects I'm just moving away from Omnisphere which is a shame.
Trilian load time for Clean Fender - Full Range - 15 sec
Omnisphere 2 - 1:45
Go figure.
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- KVRAF
- 5449 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
One would hope that something with such a clear discrepancy between two of the company's own products running the same engine would mean its a fault that's easy to find. Easy to type, I know....
I do think its a shame that Eric doesn't post any more, and no-one from Spectrasonics really keeps up to date with forum things either. James, the odd comment on threads such as this to let us know things are being worked upon would be most welcome I feel.
I do think its a shame that Eric doesn't post any more, and no-one from Spectrasonics really keeps up to date with forum things either. James, the odd comment on threads such as this to let us know things are being worked upon would be most welcome I feel.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11053 posts since 12 May, 2008
They actually told me via email that they do monitor forum threads like KVR, but I guess they just don't want to participate. I can hardly blame companies from wanting their people to stay away from forums, though a word of reassurance could help in a situation like this.noiseboyuk wrote:One would hope that something with such a clear discrepancy between two of the company's own products running the same engine would mean its a fault that's easy to find. Easy to type, I know....
I do think its a shame that Eric doesn't post any more, and no-one from Spectrasonics really keeps up to date with forum things either. James, the odd comment on threads such as this to let us know things are being worked upon would be most welcome I feel.
As for it being an easy issue to find and fix. Well we can hope however the issues are with the V2 steam engine it would seem, so hopefully it's not something so deep in it and hard to figure out. how they ever let the performance become so far from what it was in V1 is troubling though.
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- KVRian
- 793 posts since 27 Oct, 2011 from Pacific Northwest
My last e-mail from support stated my information was forwarded to developers. I took the previous ZIP downloads for the Program and Patches and installed them last night. Seems to be better and not getting the message that patches were created with a newer version of Omnisphere. It was rather quick and easy to do. Though, now I'm so confused. In general, it is definitely faster and feels more what I am used to. But I still get a few hiccups and can't remember if that was normal. It's hard to tell because now I'm spending focused time on hammering away and testing it rather than my normal use. In any case, I'm leaving it with the previous release for now. Nothing from the new version I need and it limits me from submitting patches to sound libraries.
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- KVRer
- 22 posts since 13 May, 2009 from A field, somewhere in the east of England
Actually I should add that I've resisted updating Trilion. And will continue to resist!hexdex wrote:Trilian load time for Clean Fender - Full Range - 15 sec
Omnisphere 2 - 1:45
Go figure.
I'm still on: 1.4.3d
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11053 posts since 12 May, 2008
FYI - I've updated Trilian to the latest and I don't seem to have the same issues with it as Omnisphere 2.hexdex wrote:Actually I should add that I've resisted updating Trilion. And will continue to resist!hexdex wrote:Trilian load time for Clean Fender - Full Range - 15 sec
Omnisphere 2 - 1:45
Go figure.
I'm still on: 1.4.3d
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- KVRer
- 22 posts since 13 May, 2009 from A field, somewhere in the east of England
Thanks for the heads up. It just makes the whole situation even more ridiculous really.Echoes in the Attic wrote: FYI - I've updated Trilian to the latest and I don't seem to have the same issues with it as Omnisphere 2.
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- KVRist
- 289 posts since 11 Jul, 2001 from Sweden
Yes it's slower after the last update. At first I thought it was the preset browser that was slow but it's slow and pages like the mod matrix looks like it's a 15fps video when there's lots of modulation going on.
Seems to me it's worse in stand alone compared to when I'm using it in Cubase. Might be some clever threading code by Steinberg that helps when used as plug-in perhaps?
Seems to me it's worse in stand alone compared to when I'm using it in Cubase. Might be some clever threading code by Steinberg that helps when used as plug-in perhaps?
- KVRAF
- 7691 posts since 11 Jun, 2006
don't be so impatient with Omniwait.hexdex wrote:Just to add my voice to you all. I thought I was going mad until I found this.
So, diagnostic screeny sent to Spectrasonics 5 days ago. Same problem as everyone here. Even simple wave forms can take several seconds. No word yet, but you're right... my work is being affected here. Working on new projects I'm just moving away from Omnisphere which is a shame.
Trilian load time for Clean Fender - Full Range - 15 sec
Omnisphere 2 - 1:45
Go figure.
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11053 posts since 12 May, 2008
Patiencesphere.layzer wrote:don't be so impatient with Omniwait.hexdex wrote:Just to add my voice to you all. I thought I was going mad until I found this.
So, diagnostic screeny sent to Spectrasonics 5 days ago. Same problem as everyone here. Even simple wave forms can take several seconds. No word yet, but you're right... my work is being affected here. Working on new projects I'm just moving away from Omnisphere which is a shame.
Trilian load time for Clean Fender - Full Range - 15 sec
Omnisphere 2 - 1:45
Go figure.
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- KVRian
- 793 posts since 27 Oct, 2011 from Pacific Northwest
Like I mentioned earlier, I used the previous zip downloads for the software and patch installs. I've been working with them since Thursday and I never felt slowed down or concerned these last few days. Used it live yesterday and never felt worried something wasn't going to work. I was concerned I was going to have to wipe Omnisphere clean and start over, but I haven't noticed any issues yet by simply installing the zip files. I just want to give feedback and an option to try if anyone wants to go back to the previous version.
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- KVRer
- 22 posts since 13 May, 2009 from A field, somewhere in the east of England
Still frustrated and dissapointed with Specrasonics 'support'. Two weeks in and absolutely no response from them. I've been with them since Atmosphere days and they've really gone down hill with their CS so just feeling a bit let down.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11053 posts since 12 May, 2008
I had to email them twice to get a response. They said the first one got lost, so I forwarded it. Maybe try again as they seem to lose support requests? I don't know what's going on over there.hexdex wrote:Still frustrated and dissapointed with Specrasonics 'support'. Two weeks in and absolutely no response from them. I've been with them since Atmosphere days and they've really gone down hill with their CS so just feeling a bit let down.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11053 posts since 12 May, 2008
Good news - I received an email from Spectrasonics support with a new vst dll, which I tested and the issue with slow loading of soundsources and patches. Seems back to normal! So that's good. They said it does not address the sluggishness of the GUI when set to alternate sizes, but they are aware of it.
So look forward to an update soon!
So look forward to an update soon!
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- KVRAF
- 5449 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
That IS good news, thanks for reporting, Echoes.Echoes in the Attic wrote:Good news - I received an email from Spectrasonics support with a new vst dll, which I tested and the issue with slow loading of soundsources and patches. Seems back to normal! So that's good. They said it does not address the sluggishness of the GUI when set to alternate sizes, but they are aware of it.
So look forward to an update soon!
If this is stable I hope they push it out soon, rather than wait ages for them to figure out the alt size GUI thing too.
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