KVR Audio

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:53 pm

husker37 wrote:
flugel45 wrote:
kb420 wrote:
robotmonkey wrote:Installed in a test machine out of curiosity. Haven't used Cakewalk for ages and was pleasantly surprised that the interface feels like it's still 1998. Uninstalled.
Lmao!!!

This is the funniest thing I've heard all day!!! Thank you for this post!!!!
How is it funny? I vastly prefer the Cakewalk GUI over Cubase's, but I would never criticize others for liking the latter, since I know it's a matter of taste.
I also MUCH prefer the Sonar GUI over Cubase, but I'm still very happy I switched to Cubase last December.

Cubase is actually another DAW I don't like much because every time I fire it up, I immediately get flashbacks from the 1990's.

sjm · Post by **sjm** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:59 pm

ozmuso67 wrote:FLStudio I also find to be unintuitive [...] no easy way to bounce instrument tracks etc.

Alt+R in the mixer. You need to arm the corresponding mixer track first though. The rendered audio is also placed at a random location in your playlist, which is not optimal.

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:17 pm

Izak Synthiemental wrote:
I agree that Sonar is quite cumbersome, but I'm curious why you want to "move on" from Logic? Unless you want to try a completely different approach to music composition (like Ableton or Bitwig with it's Session View).

Or are you talking about the very outdated version of Logic, the last one that did run on Windows systems from like 2006 or so?

When it comes to classic alround DAWs, that are suitable for composition / sequencing, arranging, mixing, mastering etc. (=the whole process of creating music) then Logic (the present day version for Mac) is among the best DAWs you can get.

On a PC (since the current versions of Logic are not available) I would recommend Cubase or Studio One for the classic DAW experience. Cubase is more sophisticated, since Studio One is still in a rather early stage of developement compared to Cubase (Cubase has evolved for over 20 years, while Studio One is just some years old now and still misses some adcanced features).

Thanks for the heads up, I want to move on from Logic 9, not fan of Logic X and moving to it is more than a 199$ expense, agree, Logic is quite awesome and I love it, but after spending enough time with Bitwig, I'm really more and more sure I want change, demoed pretty much majority of DAW's out there and gonna give Sonar/Cakewalk real chance and seal the deal this year, I doubt I will get new Mac, so really leaning towards Windows based DAW.

Examigan wrote:
If you right click on an envelope to add a node, you can pick from Linear, Slow or Fast. Then when you move the node around, it will be curved between the two nodes (if you selected slow or fast).

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:59 pm

The next question...will this run on Linux ?

...I''ll be trying that later..

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:08 pm

robotmonkey wrote:
husker37 wrote:
flugel45 wrote:
kb420 wrote:
robotmonkey wrote:Installed in a test machine out of curiosity. Haven't used Cakewalk for ages and was pleasantly surprised that the interface feels like it's still 1998. Uninstalled.
Lmao!!!

This is the funniest thing I've heard all day!!! Thank you for this post!!!!
How is it funny? I vastly prefer the Cakewalk GUI over Cubase's, but I would never criticize others for liking the latter, since I know it's a matter of taste.
I also MUCH prefer the Sonar GUI over Cubase, but I'm still very happy I switched to Cubase last December.
Cubase is actually another DAW I don't like much because every time I fire it up, I immediately get flashbacks from the 1990's.

My experience was similar. It felt to me like Cubase was modern on the skin/surface, but terribly old-fashioned in organization and in the culture of the developers that maintain it as it is. A kind of rut of old thinking.

aallvor · Post by **aallvor** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:27 pm

Praise to Bandlab for giving away one of the "big" DAWs for nothing. Personally I need a new one like I need a hole in the head, but this must be so great for the music software noobs

lotus2035 · Post by **lotus2035** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:38 pm

aallvor wrote:Praise to Bandlab for giving away one of the "big" DAWs for nothing. Personally I need a new one like I need a hole in the head, but this must be so great for the music software noobs

I recently bought Samplitude Pro X, Acid Pro 7, Vegas Pro and Sound Forge relatively cheap all on top of my existing FL Studio license and now this?

Spoiled for choice we are.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:41 pm

robotmonkey wrote: Cubase is actually another DAW I don't like much because every time I fire it up, I immediately get flashbacks from the 1990's.

I see... Are you one of those guys more into the Live/Bitwig approach?

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:44 pm

Zexila wrote:
Izak Synthiemental wrote:
I agree that Sonar is quite cumbersome, but I'm curious why you want to "move on" from Logic? Unless you want to try a completely different approach to music composition (like Ableton or Bitwig with it's Session View).

Or are you talking about the very outdated version of Logic, the last one that did run on Windows systems from like 2006 or so?

When it comes to classic alround DAWs, that are suitable for composition / sequencing, arranging, mixing, mastering etc. (=the whole process of creating music) then Logic (the present day version for Mac) is among the best DAWs you can get.

On a PC (since the current versions of Logic are not available) I would recommend Cubase or Studio One for the classic DAW experience. Cubase is more sophisticated, since Studio One is still in a rather early stage of developement compared to Cubase (Cubase has evolved for over 20 years, while Studio One is just some years old now and still misses some adcanced features).
Thanks for the heads up, I want to move on from Logic 9, not fan of Logic X and moving to it is more than a 199$ expense, agree, Logic is quite awesome and I love it, but after spending enough time with Bitwig, I'm really more and more sure I want change, demoed pretty much majority of DAW's out there and gonna give Sonar/Cakewalk real chance and seal the deal this year, I doubt I will get new Mac, so really leaning towards Windows based DAW.

Digital Performer is much better than Studio One Pro, considering either Mac or Windows (even if in Windows it still doesn't show the same capacity in terms of plug-in counting that it shows on Mac. But it runs quite well already).

starflakeprj · Post by **starflakeprj** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:21 pm

fmr wrote:Digital Performer is much better than Studio One Pro

You forgot to mention this is YOUR opinion...

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:48 pm

fmr wrote: Digital Performer is much better than Studio One Pro,

I tried that daw for a day, and found that it's gui is just terrible... with tiny tiny fonts.. It crashed so much I just uninstalled it. Studio One's gui, has a lot to be desired but it is minimalist and stable.

toonertik · Post by **toonertik** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:57 pm

Just downloaded.. installed Sonar, no problem...
but the instrument installer error messages with corrupt file...
only option is to download the whole lot... Sonar and StudioInstruments..
Would be good if that automatically assistant thingy had an option for just downloading the instruments...
oh >> hang on, I have another option...
uninstall... thinking about it

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:03 pm

starflakeprj wrote:
fmr wrote:Digital Performer is much better than Studio One Pro
You forgot to mention this is YOUR opinion...

Like any other of the previous statements is its author's opinion - that's pretty much implied

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:28 pm

This thing may come handy to some, seems nice for an absolute Cakewalk noob with limited time on his disposal like myself.
https://www.groove3.com/tutorials/SONAR-Explained

toonertik · Post by **toonertik** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:39 pm

fmr wrote:
starflakeprj wrote:
fmr wrote:Digital Performer is much better than Studio One Pro
You forgot to mention this is YOUR opinion...
Like any other of the previous statements is its author's opinion - that's pretty much implied

Oh my... you are having a laugh... From my limited time on KVR, I have learnt that very often "Author opinion" is like gospel opinion and therefore the only opinion...

BUT ofc, it can only be an "Author opinion" to anyone with even half a brain cell left... and yes, I speak for myself

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