really terrible old sounds wanted

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thecontrolcentre
KVRAF
23185 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:59 pm

Visit your local charity shop ...

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wagtunes
KVRAF
13967 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:18 pm

Russell Grand wrote:Too much ganging up on WAG, too little advice for the OP...
And I don't even know where this one came from. I made one post. M1 or Wavestation. That's it. So I was right. People here just love to start trouble. Finally, people can see that it isn't me.

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layzer
KVRAF
5750 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:20 pm

wagtunes wrote:
timwest wrote:
layzer wrote:
timwest wrote: Surprisingly, some of the patches sounded great when you ran them through a reverb and delay.
bingo! omni with effects disabled will get you there!
Can't say I've ever used or even heard Omnisphere before. Why is it so bad? :P Isn't it just like an all rounder synth?
He's taking cheap shots at one of the most widely used synths in cinema and television because he thinks he can get a million dollar sound out of Synth1 and a $10 effect.

In short, just ignore him.
dont make me show everyone that i can produce something with Synth1 and a $10 effect that sounds way better than anything you can make with your omnibloat and 500 other commercial vsti's... don't go there.......
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Teksonik
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11738 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:02 pm

layzer wrote: dont make me show everyone that i can produce something with Synth1 and a $10 effect that sounds way better than anything you can make with your omnibloat and 500 other commercial vsti's... don't go there.......
Oh please show us.....do go there.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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SampleScience
KVRAF
3825 posts since 31 Oct, 2004 from Mtl, Canada

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:04 pm

I think my Toy Keyboard is suited for the job:

https://www.samplescience.ca/2016/08/toy-keyboard.html

And it's free.

jabe
KVRAF
1749 posts since 9 Oct, 2008 from UK

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:08 pm

You could always sample some of the really crappy 1980s hits with all the utterly dire DX7 presets that didn't sound remotely like what the patch names alleged they were meant to be and which have left 50% of 80s hits sounding more dated than they would if they'd been played on clavichords and crumhorns with Cistercian monks doing the vocals.


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(and, okay, if anyone wants to use the last part in a new project, feel free...)
[W10-64, T5/6/7/W8/9, 32&64, Spike],[W7-32, T5/6/7/W8, Gina16] everything underused.

timwest
KVRer
22 posts since 21 Jan, 2018 from Sydney, Australia

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:55 pm

Jesus Christ, this thread is starting to resemble a school-yard. Let's be civil please.

manytone
Mod-ulator
2889 posts since 31 Oct, 2000 from "Where I'm to, There I'll be"

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:38 pm

Gotta love the Cistercian monks..... but crumhorns.... that's just BAD. (In its day DX7 was a cool keyboard)

Anyways all my tracks sound like shit lately...... so just PM me if you want one. ;-)

And be nice everyone. For the love of MUSIC!!!!
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yellowmix
KVRian
782 posts since 11 Aug, 2012

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:39 pm

To answer the OP, there's a fantastic DX7 emulation called Dexed. Loads the sysex, even. It can make some wonderful sounds but it can also make some really cheesy ones. Search for the sysex packs, the factory set has plenty of material.

Also, look at the public domain videos on archive.org and sample them. I've been mining 60s documentaries on synthesizers for noisy waveforms, it's great. Load it into a free SFZ instrument and off you go.

And RC-20 is an excellent way of dialing in the stereotypical 80s VHS sound on pretty much anything, but make it subtle and it adds just the right sheen.

shonky
KVRian
789 posts since 21 Nov, 2005

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:04 pm

I'd suggest that you can get these sort of sounds out of stock plugins pretty easily with a bit of work. Find an analog(ish) synth, route a gentle LFO to fine pitch and then use another LFO (gently again) to modulate the first LFO so this will give you some of the VHS warbling type sounds. Use some saturation/drive to give it that "into the red" recording sound and lopass the sound to take out any of that modern digital harshness.

Probably one of the best ways to find awful sounds to use these techniques on is to have a quick browse through the original library presets of those stock synths, searching for brass, leads, guitars and any other cheesy sound-unalike instruments that pretty much nobody uses for purposes other than when they're trying to emulate awful synth presets of bygone eras.

Edit: Might also be worth looking at using some impulses from old 80s tech in a convolution reverb if you have one (if not think Peavey do one but can't remember the name) as the shorter impulses will work as filters rather than spaces and give you a more realistic retro experience).

AnX
KVRAF
3402 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:12 pm

Teksonik wrote:
layzer wrote: dont make me show everyone that i can produce something with Synth1 and a $10 effect that sounds way better than anything you can make with your omnibloat and 500 other commercial vsti's... don't go there.......
Oh please show us.....do go there.
Yes indeed, please please please do! :lol:

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Nielzie
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8986 posts since 28 May, 2005 from Netherlands

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:31 pm

It's not about the sound source, it's mostly about the effects:

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..and some cheapish metallic reverb should to the trick.
None are so hopeless enslaved as KVRians with GAS.

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fluffy_little_something
KVRAF
12656 posts since 5 Jun, 2012 from Portugal

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:32 am

thecontrolcentre wrote:Visit your local charity shop ...

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I wonder if it had polyphonic aftertouch...

jabe
KVRAF
1749 posts since 9 Oct, 2008 from UK

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:36 pm

I do have a Casio VL-Tone still. That was fun.
[W10-64, T5/6/7/W8/9, 32&64, Spike],[W7-32, T5/6/7/W8, Gina16] everything underused.

svart
KVRer
23 posts since 20 Dec, 2014 from up north

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:36 pm


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