Synth/Effect that can subtract spectrum A from B in real time?
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 112 posts since 5 May, 2006 from Uppsala, Sweden
Hi folks,
Playing with ReaFir and enjoying building spectrums for eq:ing. Are there any vstis that can do the same thing, ie build/load a spectrum B and subtract B from other spectrum A. Any basic vst that can hold multiple spectrum B:s so one could choose/play different B:s to subtract from A? Sort of like an 'inverted' vocoder.
Anything similar of interest!
Regards,
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Playing with ReaFir and enjoying building spectrums for eq:ing. Are there any vstis that can do the same thing, ie build/load a spectrum B and subtract B from other spectrum A. Any basic vst that can hold multiple spectrum B:s so one could choose/play different B:s to subtract from A? Sort of like an 'inverted' vocoder.
Anything similar of interest!
Regards,
/S
- Beware the Quoth
- 33074 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
The thing about an impulse response is that it is effectively subtracting from the effected signal's spectrum. The way it basically works is that only the frequencies the IR and the signal have in common remain, the rest are lost. The ones that remain are 'multiplied', so the spectrum of the IR is 'superimposed' on the signal.
(The inverse of an IR would be [1-IRn] for each sample n of the IR, he says off the top of his head without thinking about it properly)
Not sure of which convolvers can switch IRs on the fly, its a heavy process so there's a latency involved. I guess one option is could stack up multiple convolvers in a host like Bidule, though, and change which one you're routing to on the fly.
(The inverse of an IR would be [1-IRn] for each sample n of the IR, he says off the top of his head without thinking about it properly)
Not sure of which convolvers can switch IRs on the fly, its a heavy process so there's a latency involved. I guess one option is could stack up multiple convolvers in a host like Bidule, though, and change which one you're routing to on the fly.
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Isn’t this simply a case of AM and automating the volume of osc 2?
EDIT: You're referring to EQ not synthesis.
EDIT: You're referring to EQ not synthesis.
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- KVRAF
- 2003 posts since 11 Aug, 2012 from omfr morf form romf frmo
Well, unless you're dead-set on using FIR for EQing, consider the more CPU-friendly IIR method with something like Trackspacer from Wavesfactory.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 112 posts since 5 May, 2006 from Uppsala, Sweden
Thanks fir ( ) the input. I'll look into the suggestions and see if they lead anywhere useful. I tried out the thorn synth for a one synth challenge and was impressed.
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- KVRAF
- 8810 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
A modular built vocoder should do it, you have to invert the spectrum which is applied to the carrier... Maybe in the reaktor library is something like that...
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 112 posts since 5 May, 2006 from Uppsala, Sweden
[quote="Tj Shredder"]A modular built vocoder should do it, you have to invert the spectrum which is applied to the carrier... Maybe in the reaktor library is something like that...[/quote]
So you would invert the modulator signal before feeding it to the vocoder? And the vocoder would need quite a few bands.
So you would invert the modulator signal before feeding it to the vocoder? And the vocoder would need quite a few bands.
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- KVRAF
- 1693 posts since 19 Dec, 2013 from Japan
I believe the convolution mode in MPowersynth’s OSC will do this.
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- KVRist
- 233 posts since 21 Jul, 2016
Do you mean something like WavesFactory Track Spacer? It functions like a multi-band EQ that removes the frequencies of a sidechain track from the track it's applied to.
- KVRAF
- 8810 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
It has to be flipped around some arbitrary level, the places where a frequency would be boosted, you lower it and vice versa. This is something to experiment with. Basically you are asking for a filter controlled by a signal...snoddas wrote:So you would invert the modulator signal before feeding it to the vocoder? And the vocoder would need quite a few bands.Tj Shredder wrote:A modular built vocoder should do it, you have to invert the spectrum which is applied to the carrier... Maybe in the reaktor library is something like that...
I think in Bitwig you could patch something like that together...