Waves Plugins - Really bad graphical response?

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Post Tue May 15, 2018 3:13 am

Am I the only one? Bad with my trackpad (OSX), and feels worse with my Wacom pen.

Turning knobs/moving sliders doesn't correlate 1:1 with the values displayed i.e it's possible to change the written values quite a lot without the knob/slider registering any movement. Also, with tiny movements, the mouse acceleration(?) can cause huge shifts in settings. Movement is so jerky

It just seems like there is such a disconnect when making adjustments, and with a Wacom there is a need to travel much further for the same adjustments

Is this just a bug?
Last edited by el-bo (formerly ebow) on Wed May 16, 2018 9:28 am, edited 1 time in total.

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Post Tue May 15, 2018 11:30 pm

Ok! Just me :tu:

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Klinke1
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Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Post Wed May 16, 2018 5:09 am

It's not a bug and you are not alone.
It's like it is..it has advantages and disadvantages and they wanted it like that.

The knob response can get worse with an "energy-saving" pc-setting. Try max-power. (realistic test-environment)
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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Post Wed May 16, 2018 5:53 am

Klinke1 wrote:It's not a bug and you are not alone.
It's like it is..it has advantages and disadvantages and they wanted it like that.

The knob response can get worse with an "energy-saving" pc-setting. Try max-power. (realistic test-environment)
Thanks!

Not on pc, so cannot check other settings.

What would you say are the advantages?

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Klinke1
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Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Post Wed May 16, 2018 6:00 am

:) It has fine mouse-response when you dial slow and has some kind of acceleration when dialed fast .. So you may not need to press a second button for fine-tuning. ..i think that's what they thought.

95% of vst-knobs have no acceleration and we/i are used to it. So we like it more.
Humans are Gewöhnungstiere. (we don't like to step out of our habitat)

..imo
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Stanoli
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Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Post Wed May 16, 2018 6:57 am

Klinke1 wrote::)
Humans are Gewöhnungstiere. (we don't like to step out of our habitat)

..imo
Gewohnheitstiere :ud:

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Post Wed May 16, 2018 7:47 am

Klinke1 wrote::) It has fine mouse-response when you dial slow and has some kind of acceleration when dialed fast .. So you may not need to press a second button for fine-tuning. ..i think that's what they thought.

95% of vst-knobs have no acceleration and we/i are used to it. So we like it more.
Humans are Gewöhnungstiere. (we don't like to step out of our habitat)

..imo
I should have been clearer: I do understand what mouse acceleration is. it's just in this case, it seems to be too exaggerated. It's something that I'm sure I'd get used to. However, the issue that concerns me more is the disparity between actual movement of the knob, which does correlate with numerical change, and the actual graphical representation of the movement of the knob.

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soulone82
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Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Post Wed May 16, 2018 8:17 am

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:However, the issue that concerns me more is the disparity between actual movement of the knob, which does correlate with numerical change, and the actual graphical representation of the movement of the knob.
What did Waves support say?

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Vortifex
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Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Post Wed May 16, 2018 8:26 am

Story of my life

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Post Wed May 16, 2018 8:33 am

soulone82 wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:However, the issue that concerns me more is the disparity between actual movement of the knob, which does correlate with numerical change, and the actual graphical representation of the movement of the knob.
What did Waves support say?
I don't think I mentioned having contacted them yet.

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Post Wed May 16, 2018 8:33 am

Vortifex wrote:Story of my life
:wink:

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soulone82
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Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Post Wed May 16, 2018 9:04 am

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:I don't think I mentioned having contacted them yet.
Hence my post. :wink:

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Post Wed May 16, 2018 9:08 am

soulone82 wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:I don't think I mentioned having contacted them yet.
Hence my post. :wink:
I knew exactly what you meant. Did you read my first post?

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soulone82
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Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Post Wed May 16, 2018 9:17 am

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:Did you read my first post?
Of course. That´s why I think Waves should be made aware of your issues.

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Aloysius
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Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Post Wed May 16, 2018 9:27 am

Edited title - edited post.
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