Question about spectral compression / limiting

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zeep
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1693 posts since 17 May, 2005

Post Thu May 10, 2018 5:16 am

What plugins are capable to compress and/or limit audio, with pink / brown etc noise as a threshold, apart from Plugin Alliance DSM?

Magnut
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Re: Question about spectral compression / limiting

Post Thu May 10, 2018 5:33 am

Voxengo Soniformer

Ah_Dziz
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2340 posts since 2 Jul, 2005

Re: Question about spectral compression / limiting

Post Thu May 10, 2018 5:38 am

Soundhack spectral compander and Mspectral dynamics are the ones I have that let you do these types of things.
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Neon Breath
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Re: Question about spectral compression / limiting

Post Thu May 10, 2018 9:16 am

Unfiltered Audio SpecOps, with its Spectral Compander function maybe?
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Ah_Dziz
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Re: Question about spectral compression / limiting

Post Fri May 11, 2018 7:00 am

Neon Breath wrote:Unfiltered Audio SpecOps, with its Spectral Compander function maybe?
I didn't think they let you tilt the threshold to favor low or high end sounds. I haven't used it in a while though. The "mixing" processors might be able to do it by chaining some with different ranges.
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Hermetech Mastering
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933 posts since 30 May, 2003 from Paris

Re: Question about spectral compression / limiting

Post Sat May 12, 2018 4:30 am

Not exactly sure what you are asking for, but TDR Nova can analyse and apply frequency dependent EQ/compression based upon any reference, or a Pink Noise spectrum. Has all the Frequency Dependent Ratio (FDR) gubbins too.

zeep
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1693 posts since 17 May, 2005

Re: Question about spectral compression / limiting

Post Sat May 12, 2018 7:28 am

Thanks for your suggestions. I'm looking into Voxengo Soniformer. Coming from DSM, i have to get my head around the differences.

Hermetech, basically the ease of using DSM in a lower latency plugin. In DSM i can feed any curve into it and process (push) incoming audio to get exactly that curve. But DSM is better suited on busses or master even, because of the high latency.

Can you explain how this would work with TDR Nova? I always thought it was similar to MDynamicEq.

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Hermetech Mastering
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Re: Question about spectral compression / limiting

Post Sat May 12, 2018 7:33 am

Try out the free version of Nova and see if it does what you want it to do. You can load any reference track and it will apply that reference curve to whatever you put into it, either in a static way, or dynamically.

matthines
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Re: Question about spectral compression / limiting

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zeep
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1693 posts since 17 May, 2005

Re: Question about spectral compression / limiting

Post Tue May 15, 2018 5:32 pm

I couldn't get a good result with TDR Nova, maybe it serves better for de-essing etc.
Melda's spectral plugin has a lot to offer but also on busses and masters DSM sounds clearer and punchier.

Matthines, i am going to try ozone 8's Spectral Shaper. Going from the video's and reviews online, it's exactly what i'm looking for.

Local Man
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248 posts since 31 May, 2017

Re: Question about spectral compression / limiting

Post Thu May 17, 2018 10:43 am

zeep wrote:What plugins are capable to compress and/or limit audio, with pink / brown etc noise as a threshold, apart from Plugin Alliance DSM?
This thread has really piqued my curiosity.
Can anybody explain this concept to me?
I understand multiband compression and dynamic EQ but I'm not sure what is meant by Spectral compression.
And I am really baffled by the concept of using a noise signal as the compression threshold. What does that do? How is it used in music production?
Sorry but my curiosity here couldn't be contained. :?:

zeep
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Re: Question about spectral compression / limiting

Post Thu May 17, 2018 11:04 am

Local Man it's sort of like multiband compression, but with a lot of small bands.

But check out Matthines link of the Ozone spectral compressor.
https://www.izotope.com/en/blog/masteri ... aping.html

Or also this video of DSM. Then you'll get the idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzPWeULlEOM

Local Man
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Re: Question about spectral compression / limiting

Post Thu May 17, 2018 11:29 am

zeep wrote:Local Man it's sort of like multiband compression, but with a lot of small bands.

But check out Matthines link of the Ozone spectral compressor.
https://www.izotope.com/en/blog/masteri ... aping.html

Or also this video of DSM. Then you'll get the idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzPWeULlEOM
I'll check out the links. Thanks!

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martinjuenke
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Re: Question about spectral compression / limiting

Post Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:01 am

Hermetech Mastering wrote:Try out the free version of Nova and see if it does what you want it to do. You can load any reference track and it will apply that reference curve to whatever you put into it, either in a static way, or dynamically.
TDR Nova is my go-to tool to balance the preliminary mix to a pink noise curve. It‘s doing that task quite good. Especially precisely demudding the area between 200 and 500 Hz works sometimes wonders, not to forget bringing in some additional air to the higher bands. And all that quick and hasslefree and with more than a reasonable price tag. Recommended.

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MogwaiBoy
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Re: Question about spectral compression / limiting

Post Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:46 pm

zeep wrote: Matthines, i am going to try ozone 8's Spectral Shaper. Going from the video's and reviews online, it's exactly what i'm looking for.
Ozone Spectral Shaper is really specialised towards narrowband dynamic frequency control like de-ess/de-harshing/transient softening ("de-edge"). You don't get a lot of control. Don't get me wrong, it's pretty awesome and transparent but I wouldn't put it in the same category as Soniformer, DSM or the Melda spectral processor.

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