Show us your NFR! (No sample libraries)

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KVRAF
5346 posts since 28 Apr, 2013

Post Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:01 am

Per title, what synth & effect plugins do you own that have been deemed "yours forever"?
I do have countless Kontakt libraries and a handful of Aria/Garritan, but
Please, no sample libraries.
That's another forum.


Mine are:
Alchemy 1
Harmor
MusicLabs
Rapture Pro
Rapture (2 of them)
Dimension (2 of them)
Z3ta+2
Blue Cat (became NFR w/o notice)
Revalver (became NFR on v4 for all v).

Korg LC? Well, not really. :wink:
Can't say they bother me really, except maybe Revalver, because they've implemented that "use a USB device as your dongle"... which ultimately caused that USB port to stop working until I reformatted and reinstalled everything without them.
It would be nice to off the extra licenses of the old Cakewalk pile to some one wanting them. And as much as I was annoyed at Blue Cat specifically promising me they weren't, and then deciding later they were, I can accept that they at least do for me what no other plugins on my systems seem to do.

Finally, a KVR list where the least number wins! :hihi:

AnX
KVRAF
3132 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: Show us your NFR! (No sample libraries)

Post Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:11 am

Nearly everything i have is nfr. I get free stuff for testing/factory sounds/stuff....

Cant remember the last time i bought anything.

acYm
KVRian
690 posts since 11 Sep, 2015

Re: Show us your NFR! (No sample libraries)

Post Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:21 pm

most of my older stuff I don't use anymore, cakewalk, imageline, mux, is NFR, unlike most of my new gear that I do use, which is annoying.

chk071
KVRAF
17216 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Show us your NFR! (No sample libraries)

Post Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:24 pm

All my stuff is NFR, at the moment. Ask me again in a month, then we'll see. :P

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KVRAF
4450 posts since 1 Aug, 2005 from Warszawa, Poland

Re: Show us your NFR! (No sample libraries)

Post Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:13 pm

Camel Audio stuff, Cameleon and old Alchemy. They were NFR from the start, won at mighty KVR cafe contest, wouldn't want sell them anyway.

Halonmusic
KVRAF
1658 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Re: Show us your NFR! (No sample libraries)

Post Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:29 pm

None as when i buy stuff i intend to keep them. Why would i 'sell' them? There is a reason developers offer demos for their products.

ShawnG
KVRian
589 posts since 27 Apr, 2005

Re: Show us your NFR! (No sample libraries)

Post Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:38 pm

Apple Logic Pro X which sits forlornly on my apple account, and I don't own a mac. One day again maybe.

I own a ton of Cakewalk, but that doesn't bother me as much as the fact that they forgot that they sold me z3ta+ 2. when they merged the old cakewalk store accounts they transferred all of my licenses over to the command center but that one. even after two seperate rounds of customer service, and me forwarding the original sale email, they told me they didn't have a record of selling that serial number at all. And now they are no more, hopefully Bandlab will release it someday, I liked that synth.

EnGee
KVRAF
4921 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Re: Show us your NFR! (No sample libraries)

Post Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:55 pm

There are many kinds of NFR products. I sold/donated most of them (Cakewalk account/ Air Music staff from beta testing in iLok).

Currently I have:
- Reason's Rack Extensions (PX7, Parsec 2, Antidote, FM4, and some other effects/utilities)
- FL Studio Producer and Harmor
- Live intro 9 (I got it from the charity)
- Dune 2 (I'm not sure about that because I got it 2nd hand, but last time I checked there is no NFR written in my account. Anyway, I treated as NFR as I won't sell it again!)
- The Legend (as I had a free Rack Extension because of my VST purchase)
- Korg LC
- Reaper 5 (commercial license I got from the charity)

That's it I suppose :)
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mholloway
KVRian
959 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA

Re: Show us your NFR! (No sample libraries)

Post Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:03 pm

The worst offender here IMO is definitely Exponential Audio. They release upgrades, insist they aren't upgrades even when they obviously are, and then offer a discount if you own the "previous, unrelated products" but if you take the discount, it's automatically a NFR product. Seriously bogus, yet I fell for it twice! Ouch.

NFR:

Exponential Audio NImbus ("it's NOT an upgrade to Phoenix!" Yeah, right, ok)
Exponential Audio R4 ("it's NOT an upgrade to R2!" Yeah, right, just shut up and admit your policy is anti-consumer, jerks).
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KVRAF
4703 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America

Re: Show us your NFR! (No sample libraries)

Post Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:07 pm

I can't be arsed to deal with resale.

I do have stuff that says I can't sell it (Cakewalk products), but there's no reason to try to sell anything I have anyway. It's all old and it wouldn't give me enough money to compensate for the trouble of trying to sell and switch ownership with the licensor.
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morelia
KVRAF
4205 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia

Re: Show us your NFR! (No sample libraries)

Post Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:31 pm

I have a lot of NFR. But probably even more that is practicably NFR. As in the cost to sell is more than the sale price. (*cough* Waves)
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KVRAF
6169 posts since 12 May, 2008

Re: Show us your NFR! (No sample libraries)

Post Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:15 pm

mholloway wrote:The worst offender here IMO is definitely Exponential Audio. They release upgrades, insist they aren't upgrades even when they obviously are, and then offer a discount if you own the "previous, unrelated products" but if you take the discount, it's automatically a NFR product. Seriously bogus, yet I fell for it twice! Ouch.

NFR:

Exponential Audio NImbus ("it's NOT an upgrade to Phoenix!" Yeah, right, ok)
Exponential Audio R4 ("it's NOT an upgrade to R2!" Yeah, right, just shut up and admit your policy is anti-consumer, jerks).
I had a similar, perhaps worse experience with spectrasonics. I’ve had stylus RMX forever, and at one point I bought the additional RMX Expanded content. When I tried to sell Stylus RMX, Spectrasonics told me that I could not because I bought the Expansions bundle. So not only were the expansions NFR (which would have been reasonable), thy somehow turned my original Stylus RMX into NFR! I’ve never heard of buying an additional product expansion turning the core product NFR which it wasn’t before. What the hell.
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KVRAF
1845 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from Cardiff, Wales, UK

Re: Show us your NFR! (No sample libraries)

Post Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:47 pm

I actually have no clue what is NFR and what isnt. What I have now id not part with anyway.

Apart from Ableton, I have an NFR license for that cos I won it in a raffle. I wish I had won the launchpad instead, at least I could have sold that.
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KVRAF
1870 posts since 22 Aug, 2012

Re: Show us your NFR! (No sample libraries)

Post Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:10 pm

Of all the stuff I've bought new, the only things deemed NFR are Parawave Rapid and Korg Odyssey.
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KVRian
819 posts since 13 Mar, 2008 from Arnhem, Netherlands

Re: Show us your NFR! (No sample libraries)

Post Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:02 am

Not counting stuff received for free under NFR conditions....

Camel Audio
GSi
Volko Audio
Black Rooster Audio
Positive Grid
Stagecraft Software
CubicAudio
accSone
GForce bought second hand (only one resale permitted per license)
Tone2 bought second hand
Sonimus bought second hand
SonicProjects bought second hand
OhmForce bought second hand
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