You don't think that the person using the synth affects the output?Cinebient wrote:Sure and 1 + 1 = 3Lotuzia wrote:Sounds like : A violin sounds boring VS a String Section, and a Soprano Sax VS a Brass Section ...Cinebient wrote:.......
But the only really super synth is if i combine them all in my DAW with my favorite FX and midi FX on top.
Against some nice layered sounds all single synths are boring.
Whatever layered or single : People behind the synths make them sing. Or less.
your "super-synth" ?
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no , this is why some people sell patch library...Robert Randolph wrote:You don't think that the person using the synth affects the output?Cinebient wrote:Sure and 1 + 1 = 3Lotuzia wrote:Sounds like : A violin sounds boring VS a String Section, and a Soprano Sax VS a Brass Section ...Cinebient wrote:.......
But the only really super synth is if i combine them all in my DAW with my favorite FX and midi FX on top.
Against some nice layered sounds all single synths are boring.
Whatever layered or single : People behind the synths make them sing. Or less.
even if the only thing to know are ADSR and LFO....
The synth i use have all different character.
(modular , FF one , Zebra, avenger....)
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A patch by itself doesn't make a good song, no matter how good the patch is. Song construction and mixing, which are talents, can make a difference between a patch sounding great, good, or even bad.hivkorn wrote:no , this is why some people sell patch library...Robert Randolph wrote:You don't think that the person using the synth affects the output?Cinebient wrote:Sure and 1 + 1 = 3Lotuzia wrote:Sounds like : A violin sounds boring VS a String Section, and a Soprano Sax VS a Brass Section ...Cinebient wrote:.......
But the only really super synth is if i combine them all in my DAW with my favorite FX and midi FX on top.
Against some nice layered sounds all single synths are boring.
Whatever layered or single : People behind the synths make them sing. Or less.
even if the only thing to know are ADSR and LFO....
The synth i use have all different character.
(modular , FF one , Zebra, avenger....)
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Sure, but that has nothing to do with a violin in this thread as well as all our meanings are just that....no fact.Robert Randolph wrote:You don't think that the person using the synth affects the output?Cinebient wrote:Sure and 1 + 1 = 3Lotuzia wrote:Sounds like : A violin sounds boring VS a String Section, and a Soprano Sax VS a Brass Section ...Cinebient wrote:.......
But the only really super synth is if i combine them all in my DAW with my favorite FX and midi FX on top.
Against some nice layered sounds all single synths are boring.
Whatever layered or single : People behind the synths make them sing. Or less.
Maybe we always have to put the words „my opinion is....“ before everything written on KVR.
As usual anyway just another my favorite synth or workflow thread.
My fault of course to even write something here.
It makes not much sense mostly to write anything in any thread on KVR these days
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You're just figuring that out?Cinebient wrote:Robert Randolph wrote:You don't think that the person using the synth affects the output?Cinebient wrote:Sure and 1 + 1 = 3Lotuzia wrote:Sounds like : A violin sounds boring VS a String Section, and a Soprano Sax VS a Brass Section ...Cinebient wrote:.......
But the only really super synth is if i combine them all in my DAW with my favorite FX and midi FX on top.
Against some nice layered sounds all single synths are boring.
Whatever layered or single : People behind the synths make them sing. Or less.
It makes not much sense mostly to write anything in any thread on KVR these days
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- KVRAF
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Though if the patch is both bad and poorly played, chances to make it sound good are approaching zero, no matter one's mixing talents ...wagtunes wrote:A patch by itself doesn't make a good song, no matter how good the patch is. Song construction and mixing, which are talents, can make a difference between a patch sounding great, good, or even bad.hivkorn wrote:no , this is why some people sell patch library...Robert Randolph wrote:You don't think that the person using the synth affects the output?Cinebient wrote:Sure and 1 + 1 = 3Lotuzia wrote:Sounds like : A violin sounds boring VS a String Section, and a Soprano Sax VS a Brass Section ...Cinebient wrote:.......
But the only really super synth is if i combine them all in my DAW with my favorite FX and midi FX on top.
Against some nice layered sounds all single synths are boring.
Whatever layered or single : People behind the synths make them sing. Or less.
even if the only thing to know are ADSR and LFO....
The synth i use have all different character.
(modular , FF one , Zebra, avenger....)
Anyway, this was about someone outlining that a non layered patch sounded 'boring' compared to a layered one. Vangelis and legions of other talented people proved you can think otherwise. Not that layering isn't good in itself, it's pretty effective and usefull in some cases, but single sounds can sing violently beautifully as well : It's all about the men behind the synths.(Sometimes called 'musicians' as in 'people making music, or 'the' music)
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Anyway, this was about someone outlining that a non layered patch sounded 'boring' compared to a layered one. Vangelis and legions of other talented people proved you can think otherwise. Not that layering isn't good in itself, it's pretty effective and usefull in some cases, but single sounds can sing violently beautifully as well : It's all about the men behind the synths.(Sometimes called 'musicians' as in 'people making music, or 'the' music
the best trick to know is to understand 100 % your synth to do what you want.
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I think knowing the synth was the start point assumed by all posters though ...
http://www.lelotusbleu.fr Synth Presets
77 Exclusive Soundbanks for 23 synths, 8 Sound Designers, Hours of audio Demos. The Sound you miss might be there
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There are still worse places than KVR but also much more friendly ones as well.wagtunes wrote:You're just figuring that out?Cinebient wrote:Robert Randolph wrote:You don't think that the person using the synth affects the output?Cinebient wrote:Sure and 1 + 1 = 3Lotuzia wrote:Sounds like : A violin sounds boring VS a String Section, and a Soprano Sax VS a Brass Section ...Cinebient wrote:.......
But the only really super synth is if i combine them all in my DAW with my favorite FX and midi FX on top.
Against some nice layered sounds all single synths are boring.
Whatever layered or single : People behind the synths make them sing. Or less.
It makes not much sense mostly to write anything in any thread on KVR these days
It´s in the middle somewhere.
Of course a shame in general since life is hell and then you see people bitching each other on forums on top. But i guess that is the nature of (most) humans.
I´m not better at all mostly of course.
I still enjoy KVR a bit but of course it could be a better place if we all would work on it
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Sax is a woodwind.Lotuzia wrote:Sounds like : A violin sounds boring VS a String Section, and a Soprano Sax VS a Brass Section ...Cinebient wrote:.......
But the only really super synth is if i combine them all in my DAW with my favorite FX and midi FX on top.
Against some nice layered sounds all single synths are boring.
Whatever layered or single : People behind the synths make them sing. Or less.