U-he not loading parameters properly since upgrade to Sierra

[plasticcat]

I have a rather bizarre problem since I updated my OS, the
Live set I was working on doesn't seem to load the sounds properly of U-he synths + the wrong parameters are automated.

macOS Yosemite
Ableton 9.7.7
Ace 1.1 or 1.4
The sound is correct, the parameter names which are automated are:
"Cuttoff"
"Release"


macOS Sierra 10.12.6
Ableton 9.7.7
Ace 1.1 or 1.4
The sound is similar to the original but clearly different, the parameter names which are automated are:
"VCF1:Res"
"ENV1:LMod"

As you can see, the automated parameter names are wrong. When I correct the automation by hand, I can get the original sound back,
except I get glitches on fast arpeggios while on the original on Yosemite not. (same audio buffer and other plugins work fine).

I tested both ace 1.1 and the latest 1.4, but it's all the same.
I did deep installed/reinstalled both Ableton and Ace with no luck.

This problem is close to other problems with U-he/massive/audio units and Ableton 10.0.2, but since this is Ableton 9, this is not it.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=230680
(I was dealing with these problems as well, so it's quite complicated :S)

EDIT: new problem: after reopening the set, the hand-corrected Ace sounds wrong, not just the automation, the whole sound is off compared to the original.
I can double check this wasn't before, because I made an audio recording of it before I saved the set. I was so sure this was a Live 10.0.2/audio units problem,
but I'm in Live 9 now :S.

EDIT2: I have the problems with both vst and au.

[EvilDragon]

I think with Sierra/High Sierra you need to restart after installing certain software. Try it?

[zvenx]

That's usually High Sierra afaik. But can't hurt.
rsp

[plasticcat]

That can't be it, I'm having these problems for days, several reboots.

[ZeePok]

 
Maybe better post your question in the U-He forum.

[Urs]

Sounds very much like Ableton Live 10.0.2 after automatic update

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=505734

[double edit: not sure...]

[Chapelle]

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[plasticcat]

Thanks for the replies!

@Chapelle
I know it sounds like the au problem with ableton 10.0.2, but it's not.
(I had that too with other plugins...)

@Urs
About the parameters, yes it seems like the same problem and the parameter automation
I can fix by hand so it's not the end of the world...
But the thing is, there seems to be a second problem which just changed the whole sound
a little bit. It's like ACE uses a whole different internal filter or something. Very strange.
Same with Diva.

I tried using the same version I used to (1.1) and I tried using the latest (1.4), both after a deep install: same results. After experimenting a lot, it seems to be that my old install of macOS yosemite/ableton 9/ace 1.1 was somehow not right, because even after extracting the ACE track there in a new ableton file makes the sound change to the new situation again.

Problem is, I made all my music songs with this "wrong" macOS/Ableton/ACE and they all sound good as is, because I made them there, I can't get the synth sound right anymore. All in all, this whole problem has taken way too much time. And since my old macOS install is to cluttered to work in, I have to cut my losses and simply go in there, render ACE and DIVA in all my tracks over the last couple of years I didn't finish, render them to audio and work from there.

[fisherKing]

reach out to u-he, see if they can help...