Ducking reverbs and delays

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RepeatRepeat
KVRer
14 posts since 5 Aug, 2003

Post Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:00 pm

Which reverbs and delays have the ducking option? And also, why is this not a de facto standard in all contemporary effects that it fits? I know I can do this by using side chain and a compressor, but sometimes it would be so much easier to do this inside the plugin itself.

Here's what I found so far:

Reverbs: Waves H-Reverb, D16 Toraverb
Delays: PSP Echo, Variety of Sound's Nasty DLA, GVST GDuckDly

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Delta Sign
KVRist
446 posts since 22 Jun, 2018

Re: Ducking reverbs and delays

Post Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:37 pm

U-He Colour Copy also has a built in ducking function, either for the feedback or the complete wet signal.

Edit: Ohh and MFM2 of course.

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GaryG
KVRAF
5689 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Kent, UK

Re: Ducking reverbs and delays

Post Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:56 pm

Tritiks tk-delay has ducking.

As for it not being a standard feature... I think I used it once on a vocal and don't recall people decrying it's omission on new delays so maybe not a big a deal for most people as it is for you, we all work differently.
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Russell Grand
KVRian
1316 posts since 22 May, 2017

Re: Ducking reverbs and delays

Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:05 am

2 of the best delays on the market feature ducking:

NI Replika XT and tritik tkDelay.

imrae
KVRist
402 posts since 2 Jul, 2010

Re: Ducking reverbs and delays

Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:13 am

A quick convenient ducking feature would have to be some kind of one-knob compressor, which is a complicated thing to design and won't work well with all source material.

A really good implementation of ducking would need a lot of controls: all the controls of a compressor, in fact. So why not just have people use their favorite compressor?

I'm surprised it's available as much as it is, to be honest.

RepeatRepeat
KVRer
14 posts since 5 Aug, 2003

Re: Ducking reverbs and delays

Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:33 am

I think of it as a shortcut for lazy people in a hurry (I am lazy and I have a toddler + two cats and one dog, so I'm always in a hurry). There are times when I just want to throw a reverb or a delay straight on the track instead of using a send. Those times the limited control usually is ok. All it really takes is an ON/OFF button, threshold and release times. If I want more than that, I'm ready to do some work to get there.

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Vortifex
KVRian
860 posts since 1 Sep, 2016

Re: Ducking reverbs and delays

Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:34 am

AudioThing Outer Space

Toneboosters Reverb 4

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KVRist
32 posts since 21 Nov, 2010

Re: Ducking reverbs and delays

Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:20 am

you already named a few yourself, as well as plugins other people have mentioned. choose one and get on with your productions :wink:

personally i like to do this the "hard" way, it gives you much more flexibility and you can fine tune your SC to perfection

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Drew Lake
KVRist
41 posts since 16 Jul, 2017

Re: Ducking reverbs and delays

Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:11 am

Surreal Machines Diffuse is my favourite and this has a pump feature but I personally would alway recommend Sidechaining a Compressor in front of it. ;)

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sqigls
KVRAF
3063 posts since 25 Dec, 2004 from Melbourne, Australia

Re: Ducking reverbs and delays

Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:35 am

Polygon Sheep Stealth Delay also...
https://www.polygonsheep.com/

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DJErmac
KVRian
585 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from France

Re: Ducking reverbs and delays

Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:21 am

Fractal FX Reverb and D16 Group Toraverb 2 have ducking feature.

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Burillo
KVRAF
2975 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell

Re: Ducking reverbs and delays

Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:26 am

PSP Stomp Delay does have ducking. PSP Echo i believe does as well. McDSP EC-300 does.

however, as long as the delay has a dry/wet knob, it's not an issue - you can create your own ducker.
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Halonmusic
KVRAF
1618 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Re: Ducking reverbs and delays

Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:38 am

Spaceship Delay has a ducking feature if im not mistaking.

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tesselode
KVRist
84 posts since 19 Jan, 2018

Re: Ducking reverbs and delays

Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:50 am

My free plugin Cocoa Delay has a ducking option. :D

https://tesselode.itch.io/cocoa-delay

Halonmusic
KVRAF
1618 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Re: Ducking reverbs and delays

Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:54 am

tesselode wrote:My free plugin Cocoa Delay has a ducking option. :D

https://tesselode.itch.io/cocoa-delay
Oh yes totally forgot about Cocoa Delay :)

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