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Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:58 pm

I cannot figure out how to mute the notifications from this thread now *facepalm. That did make me smile though vurt. I didn't know people still listened to something "imperfect" anymore.

1: I apologize to all of you for my harsh comments. It just gets really, really, really old after decades of seeing the same thread with the same responses all because folks are told they have to do things a certain way or it's not "right". music has been gutted because of it. I do realize that you don't get paid unless people listen though, and ever since ableton... well... then the iphone, the only thing people are listening to now are samples. Prefabbed samples. It's all they know. if it's not that it's presets. so everyone has the same sounds listening to the same programmed algorithm over and over again.

2: "Real music" is when someone plays something. Not well, not great, It's when someone plays SOMETHING. What people are doing now is programming a computer. It has very little to do with expression. It's an algorithm, and it's boring me to tears.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:00 pm

Dasheesh wrote: That did make me smile though vurt.

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:05 pm

was I not supposed to smile vurt? sorry, I didn't know. I'll do better next time.

It surprised me.

imrae · Post by **imrae** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:06 pm

Can anyone give a more technical explanation of what these words "crisp" "clean" "clear" "thin" "thick" mean and how/why they must be achieved at oscillator level?

Urs was getting frustrated in the Zebra thread when people said his synth didn't sound "modern" based on these kind of adjectives.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:07 pm

Dasheesh wrote:was I not supposed to smile vurt? sorry, I didn't know. I'll do better next time.

It surprised me.

no its not that, im just not sure what made you smile?

i think i missed something somewhere?

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:14 pm

i liked it vurt.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:18 pm

oh, the track? thanks

sorry, its late and im high

ZeePok · Post by **ZeePok** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:20 pm

Dasheesh wrote:I cannot figure out how to mute the notifications from this thread now *facepalm. That did make me smile though vurt. I didn't know people still listened to something "imperfect" anymore.

1: I apologize to all of you for my harsh comments. It just gets really, really, really old after decades of seeing the same thread with the same responses all because folks are told they have to do things a certain way or it's not "right". music has been gutted because of it. I do realize that you don't get paid unless people listen though, and ever since ableton... well... then the iphone, the only thing people are listening to now are samples. Prefabbed samples. It's all they know. if it's not that it's presets. so everyone has the same sounds listening to the same programmed algorithm over and over again.

2: "Real music" is when someone plays something. Not well, not great, It's when someone plays SOMETHING. What people are doing now is programming a computer. It has very little to do with expression. It's an algorithm, and it's boring me to tears.

Well said!

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:36 pm

ZeePok wrote:When I listen to the radio the differences in loudness between a 60's/70's recording and modern track are very significant!

Yeah, between 20's and 60's/70's also, stupid hippies and their loud music.

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:45 pm

Zexila wrote:
ZeePok wrote:When I listen to the radio the differences in loudness between a 60's/70's recording and modern track are very significant!
Yeah, between 20's and 60's/70's also, stupid hippies and their loud music.

I totally agree with zeepok, and what zexila is looking at are compression rates. there are no dynamics left. jimmy hendrix would have been laughed off stage today.

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:52 pm

Dasheesh wrote:jimmy hendrix would have been laughed off stage today.

"Your dynamic range is high and I'm too high to appreciate it", yeah, totally.

Mono compatibility is all the rage on parties these days.

Woodgardens · Post by **Woodgardens** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:06 pm

Doubt it, this is pure synth music:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_PVjcIO4MT4

anomandaris1 · Post by **anomandaris1** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:42 am

ZeePok wrote:
vurt wrote:
ZeePok wrote:
Real Music!

definition needed?
Easy: Real Music is Original and Truly Inspired, moves the listener and takes him/her on a Voyage to transcend the soul! (without using any drugs!)

Examples: Tchaikovsky Symphonies, Firebird by Stravinsky That is what the western music culture once was about.

@chk071: if you got any examples to prove me wrong, I'm all in for it.

Normal people once upon a time were dancing to symphonies and Stravinsky... good to know.

Have you heard any traditional folk dance? Most are just as simple as any EDM song.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:38 am

imrae wrote:Can anyone give a more technical explanation of what these words "crisp" "clean" "clear" "thin" "thick" mean and how/why they must be achieved at oscillator level?

Yes, the thread was meant to be about THIS, not about anyone's inflated egos or allegedly superior musical tastes. I gave a reference to certain bunch of genres characterized by common "sound" and preferred use of certain synths because otherwise it would be highly subjective.

Guys, I don't care about anyone's opinion on what is "real music" or how bad is EDM but the long wall of offtopic posts makes the thread hard to navigate. Please do have some respect.

Ed A. · Post by **Ed A.** » Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:14 am

OK, how's this for concise: It must grab you by the gonads and squeeze hard.

What makes a synth suitable for "electronic dance music"?