KVR Audio

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:47 am

Cannot locate the GA-xxxxxx
model number for Gigabyte Z390 Designare

need to check the Noctua D15 compatibility
https://noctua.at/en/nh-d15/comp
It seems it is ok but want to know for sure.
May need the number for other matters perhaps.

Delta Sign · Post by **Delta Sign** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:12 am

I, like many other people, just wish Noctua would stop using their ugly brown fans

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:46 am

ooooh that turns me on
brown fans
I'm a fan of brown fans
Ooooh la la
Ooooh la la
brown fans
Love Noctua
brown fans!!!!
They are cool
they make no noise!

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:17 am

don't take the brown fan
heh

Kaine · Post by **Kaine** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:29 am

How about the Gray ones? Some of the Redux range are low noise.

Pictus · Post by **Pictus** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:36 am

Kalamata Kid wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:47 am Cannot locate the GA-xxxxxx
model number for Gigabyte Z390 Designare

need to check the Noctua D15 compatibility
https://noctua.at/en/nh-d15/comp
It seems it is ok but want to know for sure.
May need the number for other matters perhaps.

It is compatible, check https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t9NxP3
Gigabyte Z390 overclock guide
https://www.gigabyte.com/FileUpload/Glo ... 25/946.pdf

https://youtu.be/jOXH2YIMi2Y

Pictus · Post by **Pictus** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:47 am

Water cooler like a boss, passive up to 200W?
https://youtu.be/VJUJWtVbEys?t=84

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:34 am

Pictus wrote: ↑Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:29 pm You can buy the 2x16GB CAS 14 3200Mhz, but it is more expensive...
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WtjWGX ... 14d-32gtzr
People say it makes no difference for audio stuff.

Jesus...

has CAS latency really gotten that bad in RAM these days??!
14-14-14-34 timings seems horrible compared to what I built 6-7 years ago. My old HyperX 16GB DDR3 runs at 9-9-9-27.

Pictus · Post by **Pictus** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:58 am

EnochLight wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:34 am Jesus... has CAS latency really gotten that bad in RAM these days??!
14-14-14-34 timings seems horrible compared to what I built 6-7 years ago. My old HyperX 16GB DDR3 runs at 9-9-9-27.

Good reading and links at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAS_latency

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:02 am

EnochLight wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:34 am
Pictus wrote: ↑Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:29 pm You can buy the 2x16GB CAS 14 3200Mhz, but it is more expensive...
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WtjWGX ... 14d-32gtzr
People say it makes no difference for audio stuff.
Jesus... has CAS latency really gotten that bad in RAM these days??!
14-14-14-34 timings seems horrible compared to what I built 6-7 years ago. My old HyperX 16GB DDR3 runs at 9-9-9-27.

As the clocks get higher, CAS gets longer as well. What really matters is CAS/MHz ratio.

Also keep in mind the whole CPU architecture is aimed at hiding memory latency.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:46 pm

Pictus · Post by **Pictus** » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:45 pm

https://youtu.be/v5NDtS8za8g

WARNING!
For audio works you do not want a motherboard with PLX chip(higher latency).
You do not want the ASUS WS Z390 Pro and SuperMicro C9Z390-PGW.

BTW, he forgot to mention the Gigabyte Z390 DESIGNARE with build-in Thunderbolt
ports and the VRM +- the same as the Gigabyte Ultra/Pro/Elite.

HM · Post by HM » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:11 pm

Pictus wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:45 pmFor audio works you do not want a motherboard with PLX chip(higher latency).
You do not want the ASUS WS Z390 Pro and SuperMicro C9Z390-PGW.

BTW, he forgot to mention the Gigabyte Z390 DESIGNARE with build-in Thunderbolt
ports and the VRM +- the same as the Gigabyte Ultra/Pro/Elite.

So Gigabyte Z390 Designare does not have this PLX ?

How can I quick and easy see if a motherboard got PLX, or not,.. ?

HM · Post by HM » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:24 pm

AsRock Z370 Extreme4 ,.. should be a nice overclocker ,.. and it now got support for 9900K

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments ... _the_wild/

Since latest USB, and the other Bells and Whistles of the Z390 is not that important to me I consider to give the AsRock a try

Any opinions here ?

Pictus · Post by **Pictus** » Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:31 am

HM wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:11 pm
Pictus wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:45 pmFor audio works you do not want a motherboard with PLX chip(higher latency).
You do not want the ASUS WS Z390 Pro and SuperMicro C9Z390-PGW.

BTW, he forgot to mention the Gigabyte Z390 DESIGNARE with build-in Thunderbolt
ports and the VRM +- the same as the Gigabyte Ultra/Pro/Elite.
So Gigabyte Z390 Designare does not have this PLX ?

No PLX.

How can I quick and easy see if a motherboard got PLX, or not,.. ?

The Z390 has 24 lanes https://www.anandtech.com/show/13135/mo ... et-exposed
Can support one GPU at 16x
Can support two GPUs at 8x + 8x
Can support three GPUs at 8x + 4x + 4x

So, if a Z390 motherboard supports 2 GPUs at 16x + 16x, then it uses a PLX chip.
https://www.asus.com/Commercial-Servers ... /overview/

https://www.anandtech.com/show/6170/fou ... s-and-evga

HM wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:24 pm AsRock Z370 Extreme4 ,.. should be a nice overclocker ,.. and it now got support for 9900K

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments ... _the_wild/

Since latest USB, and the other Bells and Whistles of the Z390 is not that important to me I consider to give the AsRock a try

Any opinions here ?

Seems like with proper airflow around the VRM heatsinks it can stand the i9900K, but I wouldn't call it a nice overclocker...

Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?