d16 Silverline FX bundle - worth it?
- Banned
- Topic Starter
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Being Polish I'm always eager to support (the few) local plugin developers, so I've been looking at d16's Silverline FX bundle. With current -40% deal it amounts to EUR207 (or even a bit cheaper if using Audiodeluxe or JRRShop), which gets you 8 high quality plugins!
https://d16.pl/silverlinecollection
Is it worth getting them, if I already have Soundtoys 5 which - I feel - has a lot of overlap, at least in terms of 'types' of effects?
If you don't own the bundle but single plugins, which ones are the most interesting (for psychedelic trance, if that's important )?
https://d16.pl/silverlinecollection
Is it worth getting them, if I already have Soundtoys 5 which - I feel - has a lot of overlap, at least in terms of 'types' of effects?
If you don't own the bundle but single plugins, which ones are the most interesting (for psychedelic trance, if that's important )?
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- KVRian
- 1204 posts since 23 May, 2016
I'm producing Techno and mostly use Redoptor, Antresol, Decimort, Tekturon on drums. Also Syntorus got some use on synths. Devastor and Decimort especially are fun on Acid Lines.
But have actually all of D16
You can't do wrong here. (Same goes for u-he, DMG)
Btw most used from d16 is Drumazon, Nepheton by far. They're so lightweight and easy + fast to load and have a convincing sound when used right (compressed, limited, distorted).
What I think the main points on d16 versus Soundtoys are:
- clean interfaces
- easy to use
- fast loading
Although Soundtoys are also great. But you need more time with their plugins, they are deeper (but most of the time I want fast + easy, not spending hours on EchoBoy or FilterFreak setting up a nice groove.)
But have actually all of D16
You can't do wrong here. (Same goes for u-he, DMG)
Btw most used from d16 is Drumazon, Nepheton by far. They're so lightweight and easy + fast to load and have a convincing sound when used right (compressed, limited, distorted).
What I think the main points on d16 versus Soundtoys are:
- clean interfaces
- easy to use
- fast loading
Although Soundtoys are also great. But you need more time with their plugins, they are deeper (but most of the time I want fast + easy, not spending hours on EchoBoy or FilterFreak setting up a nice groove.)
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- KVRist
- 370 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
Polish or not, I don't like nationalism or patriotism, intelligent and very capable programmers can be surely found around the world. That said, I do think D16 products are fabulous sounding. I have most of the "Silver Line" and use them often when it comes to distortion type of sounds. They just got it right - often other plug ins sound like simple wave shapers, harsh and not inspiring.
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- KVRist
- 272 posts since 28 Jun, 2017
The modulation FX (Syntorus/Fazortan/Antresol) are REALLY good, some of the best out there. Decimort is also really good. The rest is okay but not particularily special IMO compared to many contemporary options.
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Winstontaneous Winstontaneous https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=98336
- KVRAF
- 2351 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Berkeley, CA
I have Toraverb 2, Decimort, and Syntorus. D16 always puts a unique spin on their interpretation of classic FX. Toraverb is one of the best reverbs when you're not looking for clean/natural sounds.
I have SoundToys (which I use on pretty much every track) and they complement each other well. As with any bundle purchase, be sure to demo everything to see if you'd actually use it. It's not a bargain if it's just sitting on your computer gathering digital dust.
I have SoundToys (which I use on pretty much every track) and they complement each other well. As with any bundle purchase, be sure to demo everything to see if you'd actually use it. It's not a bargain if it's just sitting on your computer gathering digital dust.
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- Topic Starter
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
I'm not sure why you're trying to spin this into something negative? There's very few Polish VST devs (I'm aware of only D16 and PSP) so forgive me for preferring to spend money there rather than elsewhere, if the quality is good or better.
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- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 11 Sep, 2015
I remember when the first silverline suite launched, it wasn't cheap, had a luxury feel to it, and generally delivered on the hype.
I think they have successfully modernized it with version 2, with a slight bémol, which is that some units like Devastor2 have stupidly high latency.
commies can gtfo, anyone who knows about history is aware that high-tech brands from Poland kicking ass is something to rejoice about.
I think they have successfully modernized it with version 2, with a slight bémol, which is that some units like Devastor2 have stupidly high latency.
commies can gtfo, anyone who knows about history is aware that high-tech brands from Poland kicking ass is something to rejoice about.
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- KVRAF
- 2301 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
Short version: YES, absolutely worth it.
Here's my personal breakdown:
Decimort 2 -- easily my favorite bitcrusher / sample rate reduction plugin
Fazortan 2 -- easily my favorite Phaser plugin
Syntorus -- easily my favorite Chorus plugin
Redopter 2 -- easily my favorite tube distortion plugin
When it comes to modulation & distortion, I feel that D16 is the best in the game, and I've tried / owned a ton of their competition.
Their Delay plugins are fine, but I think in that area stronger / better competition exists -- NI's Replika-XT, for example, is IMO much superior to D16's Repeater. They have similar approaches to delay but Replika offers far more control and a much better UI. Tekturon, at least, is somewhat more novel / unique in its approach to multi-tap delays.
I'm very psyched for Syntorus to get the inevitable V2 update -- it really needs the bigger UI!
I don't own Antresol yet, but seeing as it's 40% off, hmmmmm
Here's my personal breakdown:
Decimort 2 -- easily my favorite bitcrusher / sample rate reduction plugin
Fazortan 2 -- easily my favorite Phaser plugin
Syntorus -- easily my favorite Chorus plugin
Redopter 2 -- easily my favorite tube distortion plugin
When it comes to modulation & distortion, I feel that D16 is the best in the game, and I've tried / owned a ton of their competition.
Their Delay plugins are fine, but I think in that area stronger / better competition exists -- NI's Replika-XT, for example, is IMO much superior to D16's Repeater. They have similar approaches to delay but Replika offers far more control and a much better UI. Tekturon, at least, is somewhat more novel / unique in its approach to multi-tap delays.
I'm very psyched for Syntorus to get the inevitable V2 update -- it really needs the bigger UI!
I don't own Antresol yet, but seeing as it's 40% off, hmmmmm
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- KVRist
- 370 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
Why is this negative? I have partly Polish ancestors, like many Germans - there is nothing negative in there. I just don't like a nationalistic undertone. The quality counts and that I pointed out clearly for D16 - I like D16 a lot and recommend them. I don't buy Steinberg software because it is developed in Germany ... that would be silly.
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- KVRist
- 370 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
ToraVerb2 is surprisingly good - I often use it when regular reverb plug ins or reverb hardware sounds to simple. ToraVerb2 has a nice veil in the decay without sounding 'lexiconish' ... very clever.Winstontaneous wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:20 pm Toraverb is one of the best reverbs when you're not looking for clean/natural sounds.
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- KVRian
- 1090 posts since 24 Jul, 2018
You don't like nationalism or patriotism? That statement is foolish. There may very well be capable programmers in countries like Nuke Korea but we'll never know because they're not allowed on the internet because they're country suxs. So when people have good things, like a country, they naturally take pride in it. And besides, during a storm the first trees that fall are the ones who aren't deep rooted.
dreamvoid wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:23 pm Polish or not, I don't like nationalism or patriotism, intelligent and very capable programmers can be surely found around the world. That said, I do think D16 products are fabulous sounding. I have most of the "Silver Line" and use them often when it comes to distortion type of sounds. They just got it right - often other plug ins sound like simple wave shapers, harsh and not inspiring.
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- KVRian
- 1090 posts since 24 Jul, 2018
Toraverb might be my favorite reverb I'm renting to own off Splice right now. I originally only wanted to use it for a month but it sounds so good i'm just gonna keep it. And Fazortron may be the first phaser effect I heard that made me actually want to go out my way to use a phaser.
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- KVRAF
- 35424 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
TBH, I'm happy and proud that we have so many good plugin and audio software developer here. I wouldn't go as far as to say that I'd preferably buy German software, I rather buy based on quality, but, it's definitely great that we're good in this business. It's wrong to say that nation is always something bad. If you take a look at history, there have been many great achievements driven by it.dreamvoid wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:57 pmWhy is this negative? I have partly Polish ancestors, like many Germans - there is nothing negative in there. I just don't like a nationalistic undertone. The quality counts and that I pointed out clearly for D16 - I like D16 a lot and recommend them. I don't buy Steinberg software because it is developed in Germany ... that would be silly.
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- KVRAF
- 35424 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Totally agree. I know, stuff like that isn't worth much anymore these days, with governments striving for a united Europe or world state, no matter how unrealistic something like that is.SoundPorn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:42 am You don't like nationalism or patriotism? That statement is foolish. There may very well be capable programmers in countries like Nuke Korea but we'll never know because they're not allowed on the internet because they're country suxs. So when people have good things, like a country, they naturally take pride in it. And besides, during a storm the first trees that fall are the ones who aren't deep rooted.