If not Firefox then what?

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chk071
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17668 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:39 pm

fmr wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:23 pm
ThomasHelzle wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:58 pm
Anyway, back to browsers:
I found it very sad when Opera gave up their own engine, even with all the problems it had.
I won't shed a single tear over anything MS ever did webwise, but if they also drop their engine, that will leave FF as the last alternative to Chromium. And monocultures aren't any good, since vermin thrives on them...
I find it hard to believe that Microsoft will incorporate Chromium engine in their browser. It would be like Apple incorporating Windows as the base to their OS. It's surrendering to the competitor. They would better simply remove Edge, and forget about it (as i did - forget, not remove, since I cannot remove it).
It's true though. Chromium engine will come for Edge. I think it is a good call.

You know what's funny? Microsoft has more developers working on the Chromium project than Mozilla have working on Firefox in total. :P

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Unaspected
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477 posts since 4 May, 2012

Re: If not Firefox then what?

Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:04 pm

Comodo Dragon isn't bad but it's great either.

Only Firefox for me.

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do_androids_dream
KVRAF
2824 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK

Re: If not Firefox then what?

Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:35 pm

Pale Moon has become my main browser. It still supports a Description box in bookmarks (which I rely upon for various things) - which Firefox dropped with no warning. Firefox is also now part of the censorship propaganda bs now too..

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Russell Grand
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1544 posts since 22 May, 2017

Re: If not Firefox then what?

Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:54 pm

Maxthon.

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Unaspected
KVRist
477 posts since 4 May, 2012

Re: If not Firefox then what?

Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:07 pm

do_androids_dream wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:35 pm
Firefox is also now part of the censorship propaganda bs now too..
That is disappointing to learn. Do you have an example?

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ThomasHelzle
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5089 posts since 9 Dec, 2008 from Berlin

Re: If not Firefox then what?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:07 am

The official news about MS Edge going Chromium:
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperi ... aboration/

Cheers,

Tom
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do_androids_dream
KVRAF
2824 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK

Re: If not Firefox then what?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:20 am

Unaspected wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:07 pm
do_androids_dream wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:35 pm
Firefox is also now part of the censorship propaganda bs now too..
That is disappointing to learn. Do you have an example?
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/08/0 ... on-online/

Karbon L. Forms
KVRian
1101 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Inverness, Scotland

Re: If not Firefox then what?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:39 am

do_androids_dream wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:20 am
Unaspected wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:07 pm
do_androids_dream wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:35 pm
Firefox is also now part of the censorship propaganda bs now too..
That is disappointing to learn. Do you have an example?
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/08/0 ... on-online/
Why is this bad?
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perfumer
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88 posts since 4 Oct, 2018

Re: If not Firefox then what?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:01 am

Karbon L. Forms wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:39 am
do_androids_dream wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:20 am
Unaspected wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:07 pm
do_androids_dream wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:35 pm
Firefox is also now part of the censorship propaganda bs now too..
That is disappointing to learn. Do you have an example?
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/08/0 ... on-online/
Why is this bad?
From the link:
In short: it makes the Internet less healthy. As a result, the Internet’s ability to power democratic society suffers greatly.
The Internet is NOT healthy. It is a spy tool exploited by US, European and Israeli spy organizations. The REAL spies. Only later do Facebook, Google etc. come into the picture. And they are spies too, although a bit different. And then come commercial companies who want to sell you stuff you don't need, but for this puropose they need your metadata which they collect or purchase without your approval and generally treat you like a lab rat with a credit card.

And who decides what is 'information' or not? The guys who want to tell you who you are and what you should think. Ah, it's a Russian site spreading this 'misinformation'? We'll ditch it as a last result in your search. Ah, a Chinese site? Won't be listed at all.

You know, long before the so-called Russian trolls, there were the US trolls, bots, etc. including on Facebook, Twitter, etc.

The phrase 'democratic societies' gives the game away. Democratic, my ass!

Richard deHove
KVRist
350 posts since 23 Mar, 2016

Re: If not Firefox then what?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:06 am

Karbon L. Forms wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:39 am
do_androids_dream wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:20 am
Unaspected wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:07 pm
do_androids_dream wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:35 pm
Firefox is also now part of the censorship propaganda bs now too..
That is disappointing to learn. Do you have an example?
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/08/0 ... on-online/
Why is this bad?
Corporate censorship. What could possibly go wrong :lol:

perfumer
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88 posts since 4 Oct, 2018

Re: If not Firefox then what?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:07 am

Got exposed by Assange and Snowden, but that was just a start. There's a lot more to the picture.

Karbon L. Forms
KVRian
1101 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Inverness, Scotland

Re: If not Firefox then what?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:09 am

perfumer wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:01 am
Karbon L. Forms wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:39 am
do_androids_dream wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:20 am
Unaspected wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:07 pm
do_androids_dream wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:35 pm
Firefox is also now part of the censorship propaganda bs now too..
That is disappointing to learn. Do you have an example?
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/08/0 ... on-online/
Why is this bad?
From the link:
In short: it makes the Internet less healthy. As a result, the Internet’s ability to power democratic society suffers greatly.
The Internet is NOT healthy. It is a spy tool exploited by US, European and Israeli spy organizations. The REAL spies. Only later do Facebook, Google etc. come into the picture. And they are spies too, although a bit different. And then come commercial companies who want to sell you stuff you don't need, but for this puropose they need your metadata which they collect or purchase without your approval and generally treat you like a lab rat with a credit card.

And who decides what is 'information' or not? The guys who want to tell you who you are and what you should think. Ah, it's a Russian site spreading this 'misinformation'? We'll ditch it as a last result in your search. Ah, a Chinese site? Won't be listed at all.

You know, long before the so-called Russian trolls, there were the US trolls, bots, etc. including on Facebook, Twitter, etc.

The phrase 'democratic societies' gives the game away. Democratic, my ass!
Erm. OK. But when I quickly read it, I thought 'oh good, maybe less anti-vax, anti-gmo bullshit stories getting into peoples heads'.

You seem a tad paranoid.
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perfumer
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88 posts since 4 Oct, 2018

Re: If not Firefox then what?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:21 am

No. Sorry. I have a major in International Relations, specialized in security. This is my profession. There is a spy world war going on - been like that for over a decade.

chk071
KVRAF
17668 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: If not Firefox then what?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:29 am

Ok. If you say so.

Karbon L. Forms
KVRian
1101 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Inverness, Scotland

Re: If not Firefox then what?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:31 am

I'm sure the spys have been at it for years. Do security professionals rant on music forums these days? You come across as an Alex Jones type. All the crap you ranted about has been going on for hundreds of years.
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