Midi Processing tricks?

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Karbon L. Forms
KVRian
1099 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Inverness, Scotland

Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:51 am

I just use dozens of them.
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Karbon L. Forms
KVRian
1099 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Inverness, Scotland

Re: Midi Processing tricks?

Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:03 am

And we have massive abilities to process it's output in BW anyway. I thought it odd that there were no parameters for such things but just slapped a Note Pitch Shifter behind it/them. Which was actually quicker than having to look up a (albeit non-existent) midi map.
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antic604
KVRian
1447 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: Midi Processing tricks?

Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:31 am

Karbon L. Forms wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:50 am
Zero. Sadly :(
Really?! That's too bad :(
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connmach
KVRist
131 posts since 4 Jun, 2016 from Berlin

Re: Midi Processing tricks?

Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:36 am

antic604 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:31 am
Karbon L. Forms wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:50 am
Zero. Sadly :(
Really?! That's too bad :(
May I suggest MIDI Madness 3?

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antic604
KVRian
1447 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: Midi Processing tricks?

Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:49 am

connmach wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:36 am
May I suggest MIDI Madness 3?
Looks interesting! Will have a closer look :clap:
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Stamped Records
KVRist
31 posts since 20 Sep, 2018 from UK

Re: Midi Processing tricks?

Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:37 pm

I did actually mean, within Bitwig, human tricks as opposed to "give me give me, I'm an artist, really I am", huh herm, tricks.

Karbon L. Forms
KVRian
1099 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Inverness, Scotland

Re: Midi Processing tricks?

Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:43 pm

Stamped Records wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:37 pm
I did actually mean, within Bitwig, human tricks as opposed to "give me give me, I'm an artist, really I am", huh herm, tricks.
You never mentioned you were a composer. :wink:
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Karbon L. Forms
KVRian
1099 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Inverness, Scotland

Re: Midi Processing tricks?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:40 am

antic604 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:31 am
Karbon L. Forms wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:50 am
Zero. Sadly :(
Really?! That's too bad :(
From Audiomodern support: "MIDI automation is something we work on and hope we can have it soon as updates roll."
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SpaceCadetOnLeave
KVRist
30 posts since 6 Jun, 2018 from Liverpool

Re: Midi Processing tricks?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:22 am

Stamped Records wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:37 pm
I did actually mean, within Bitwig, human tricks as opposed to "give me give me, I'm an artist, really I am", huh herm, tricks.
hmmm I wonder how would one translate a grammar nzi into the composer's musical context?
note nzi? music theory nzi?
naahhh such a thing doesn't exist :D

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antic604
KVRian
1447 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: Midi Processing tricks?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:56 am

Karbon L. Forms wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:40 am
antic604 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:31 am
Karbon L. Forms wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:50 am
Zero. Sadly :(
Really?! That's too bad :(
From Audiomodern support: "MIDI automation is something we work on and hope we can have it soon as updates roll."
Good find! Looking forward to getting it when this is implemented, because I liked the demo (although it has some stupid limitations preventing from checking the more interesting aspects of the device...). Thanks :)
Live 10 // Bitwig 2 // Reason 10 // Studio One 4
Music: https://soundcloud.com/antic604

Karbon L. Forms
KVRian
1099 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Inverness, Scotland

Re: Midi Processing tricks?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:20 am

Can't really remember the demo limitations. No drag export was one. Easy enough to 'print' to another track though. The scales are great ('Enigmatic' on a Glockenspiel is well cool). I like it's simplicity and base randomness. It does not try to remotely be a 'write song' button. It really shine on multiple instances with maybe a bit of BW note post-processing. Simple example: 1 instance doing bass with low number of note and low note range doing pentatonic-minor, another instance doing higher up, more notes/wider range, using blues scale. The 2 instances know NOTHING of each other or 'proper' harmony rules and that I VERY much like.

[ :lol: spell checker was going for 'catatonic-minor' ]
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Stamped Records
KVRist
31 posts since 20 Sep, 2018 from UK

Re: Midi Processing tricks?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:16 am

SpaceCadetOnLeave wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:22 am
Stamped Records wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:37 pm
I did actually mean, within Bitwig, human tricks as opposed to "give me give me, I'm an artist, really I am", huh herm, tricks.
hmmm I wonder how would one translate a grammar nzi into the composer's musical context?
note nzi? music theory nzi?
naahhh such a thing doesn't exist :D
For the grammar nazi analogy to work, it would require that the subject of the analogy was involved in the process - otherwise, who am I insulting anyway? :wink:

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antic604
KVRian
1447 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: Midi Processing tricks?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:42 am

Karbon L. Forms wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:20 am
Can't really remember the demo limitations. No drag export was one.
In demo there are just 4 or 5 scales, no possibility to vary note lengths, tie notes or add rests/pauses. The last three in particular make it hard to judge the "quality" of its generative melodic engine, because without them it just sounds like a quick 16th notes arpeggio and there's abundance of those on the market... I contacted them and see what's the reply.
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Trancit
KVRAF
1803 posts since 27 Jul, 2004

Re: Midi Processing tricks?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:57 am

Far more useful than Riffer (which does nonsense most of the time) is Melody Sauce, which is now available as VST:

https://evabeat.com/

Karbon L. Forms
KVRian
1099 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Inverness, Scotland

Re: Midi Processing tricks?

Post Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:23 am

Trancit wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:57 am
Far more useful than Riffer (which does nonsense most of the time) is Melody Sauce, which is now available as VST:

https://evabeat.com/
I'll probably add it to my arsenal when I have coin.

No demo. Well that's novel.

Reading the manual, it seems a bit too 'clever'. Those 'moods' kind of creep me out. I'm more interested in curating and manipulating more simplistically generated patterns than a 'create catchy song' button. I'll see when I get it.

I like Riffer's very random approach. I decide if something's 'dark' or not.

What scales are in there? I only see major/minor and the advice "should be in the key of the project you're working on". No! :x :lol: We're not all writing advertising jingles for chocolate and tampons here you know.

I'll see if I can find some videos.
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