How can I make early club trance (???) bass?

[recko]

Hello, I'd like to make a similar bass such in this(from 0:56):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_v2c6_l4xs

I tried to look it in this forum but I don't know exactly what is it's name
Thanks in advance.

[JoaquinAce]

Thats called a Klubbheads bass. Here they show you how to make it with FM8 (I think its in russian but you can follow along with the video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMFnzyK0Pkc

[Gamma-UT]

Thats called a Klubbheads bass.

Or donk bass. As in bouncy-house stalwarts' Blackout Crew's "Put a Donk on it".

A search for donk bass will net you a lot more tutorials, but the core sound had its beginnings in the Wood Piano patch from the DX7 (or the DX100, can't remember which). It's basically one FM oscillator modulating a carrier at a 2:1 ratio. There's a gazillion variations on it, but that's pretty much it.

Nearly, forgot, on the modulator oscillator you need a fast attack and medium decay (around 500ms-1s on Ableton's Operator) to a sustain that's probably not zero but not that high either. Longer decay or sustain veers into DnB territory. Shorter gives you a kick drum.

[Music Bird]

It’s 2 TX-81z synths with the Wood Piano preset MIDI’d and detuned against each other.

[Kwurqx]

The TX-81Z has more the just sines for operators (oscillators). It's pretty unique in that way. This is why the famouse Lately Bass cannot be exactly reproduced on an DX7 (or DX100). Also, various Yamaha "FM" (i'ts actually PM) synthesizers have different envelopes, algorithms, noise levels and bit resolutions.

But....there is plenty you can do on a DX7.

To save yourself some time, space and money. There is an excellent free Yamaha DX7 emulation plugin. It even loads Yamaha DX7 sysex files. And there are thousands of those to be found on the web. It can also emulate various bit depths/rates/noise levels.

Digital Suburban - DEXED
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/dexed- ... l-suburban

[Music Bird]

Yeah, the Wood Piano uses a square type wave. So it would be difficult to recreate it in Dexed.

[Kwurqx]

Yeah, the Wood Piano uses a square type wave. So it would be difficult to recreate it in Dexed.

Not all is lost.....

You can emulate the basic waveforms, sine (obviously), triangle, square and saw, in FM (PM).

Here's a tutorial by madFame (who has more usefull FM/DX7 tutorials).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSBEHaw6jyg

BTW

You can come pretty close to such sounds/basses with a subtractive synth starting with a single 50% pulse (=square). Then have a filter with high resonance and some drive/saturation (and maybe an appropriate shaper/distortion function). Filter ADSR with a fast decay. Adjust filter cutoff and sustain tot taste. Some EQ to top it off.

[Music Bird]

Yeah, the Wood Piano uses a square type wave. So it would be difficult to recreate it in Dexed.

Not all is lost.....

You can emulate the basic waveforms, sine (obviously), triangle, square and saw, in FM (PM).

Here's a tutorial by madFame (who has more usefull FM/DX7 tutorials).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSBEHaw6jyg

BTW

You can come pretty close to such sounds/basses with a subtractive synth starting with a single 50% pulse (=square). Then have a filter with high resonance and some drive/saturation (and maybe an appropriate shaper/distortion function). Filter ADSR with a fast decay. Adjust filter cutoff and sustain tot taste. Some EQ to top it off.

Yeah, I’ve even read about some producers using Juno for this bass with chorus. I think it would be likely as you said, as well as maybe a second 50% pulse width square slightly detuned, because of the trick many producers used detuning 2 TX-81Zs slightly from each other.
Anyways, a free plugin I’d suggest to the OP would be FM4 by GTG, I think it’s an emulation of a DX-11, which is a keyboard TX-81Z.

[Music Bird]

GTG’s website is here.
http://www.gtgsynths.com/index.htm
Unfortunately, FM 4 is not available on KVR Audio as far as I can see.
Here’s the company’s developer page.
https://www.kvraudio.com/developer/gtg-synths
The plugin can also be found on VST4Free.

[Kwurqx]

GTG 4 is not a DX11 / TX81Z emulation.

Mainly;
It does not have all the DX11 / TX81Z waveforms.
It does not have feedback.

You can try this one (but it lacks feedback and more)

ToneBytes - FM Four
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/fm-four-by-tonebytes
http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=1456

The closest thing [edit: for FREE , because there's NI's FM8] is Oxe FM (with a free matrix and more then just sines)
It's free and open source. Checked the source code once. It's not to hard to give it the DX11/TX81Z waveforms. Maybe someone will...some day.
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/oxe-fm ... e-software



[EDIT: Oxe FM with "FM8" skin]

[Ah_Dziz]

Aside from the fm advice. There’s some pretty serious detuning going on there. You could use some chorus to achieve that. Similar types of sounds can be made with a modulator anywhere in the first couple of octaves from the carrier frequency. I’d use some velocity control of the envelopes and modulation levels too. There’s an awesome version of this for equator if you got a seaboard.

[recko]

Thanks for everyone, I'll try everything