Are filters what make the sound of a synth stand out from the crowd?

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Cinebient
KVRAF
3909 posts since 16 Nov, 2014

Post Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:58 am

wagtunes wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:53 am
Cinebient wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:49 am
At least some people here have a sense of humor i like. Thank you for that. :D Life is too serious.
But yes, hard to say it is not one of the most off topic going music forum ever with a good bunch of stubborn and unfriendly people (again, me included). As long as we accept that it is all fine.
Maybe just strange for new members with a not warm welcome often.
New members? The guy's been here since 2016. I was run out of here on a rail my first day. :lol: I had tire treadmarks all down my back. :lol: :hihi: :party: :help:
I mean in general. You see here of course the same people also writing the same nonsense over and over again in similar threads and it runs in circles. Not sure why but in many cases it seems that people get very emotional or even personal because other people prefer other software and/or hardware for their very own reason they might not even can imagine.
Maybe time for a 5 posts per day limit, so we think more about what and where we write.

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vurt
addled muppet weed
39548 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Are filters what make the sound of a synth stand out from the crowd?

Post Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:00 am

:o

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wagtunes
KVRAF
14371 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Are filters what make the sound of a synth stand out from the crowd?

Post Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:00 am

Cinebient wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:58 am
wagtunes wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:53 am
Cinebient wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:49 am
At least some people here have a sense of humor i like. Thank you for that. :D Life is too serious.
But yes, hard to say it is not one of the most off topic going music forum ever with a good bunch of stubborn and unfriendly people (again, me included). As long as we accept that it is all fine.
Maybe just strange for new members with a not warm welcome often.
New members? The guy's been here since 2016. I was run out of here on a rail my first day. :lol: I had tire treadmarks all down my back. :lol: :hihi: :party: :help:
I mean in general. You see here of course the same people also writing the same nonsense over and over again in similar threads and it runs in circles. Not sure why but in many cases it seems that people get very emotional or even personal because other people prefer other software and/or hardware for their very own reason they might not even can imagine.
Maybe time for a 5 posts per day limit, so we think more about what and where we write.
That would sure give me more time to work on my music. :x :lol:

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mellotronaut
KVRAF
9830 posts since 2 Jan, 2005 from somewhere in the woods

Re: Are filters what make the sound of a synth stand out from the crowd?

Post Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:04 am

whyterabbyt wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:42 am
Cinebient wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:39 am
Otherwise no one can explain this nonsense here.
Its the online equivalent of histamine buildup.
kudos
"It dreamed itself along"

glokraw
KVRAF
6643 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Are filters what make the sound of a synth stand out from the crowd?

Post Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:39 am

perfumer wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:53 am
Look Urs, I've been reading your posts for 10+ years, and know very well how aggressively you're self-promoting, and defending your 'brand', so to say. The accent falls on 'aggressively'.
Anyone who desires to support their family, maintain and advance their
career or business, and have some nice things to share,
will self promote, both aggressively, and accurately. Those lacking the
accuracy bit will be culled when they apply for work with slack hands,
or shortly after having been hired. And the marketplace will deal swiftly
with inferior products, in any sector, and at any price point.

The civiilzed world is full of self-entitled drones, welfare parasites,
and neurotic snowflakes that fail to comprehend the blood and treasure
that secure a nations ability to develope electricity, plumbing, agriculture,
and transportation, while preserving both national and local security.
A businessman will employ accurate aggression, which is the foundation
of society, business, family, and self preservation.
Cheers

Stefken
KVRian
770 posts since 9 Nov, 2016

Re: Are filters what make the sound of a synth stand out from the crowd?

Post Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:51 pm

glokraw wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:39 am
perfumer wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:53 am
Look Urs, I've been reading your posts for 10+ years, and know very well how aggressively you're self-promoting, and defending your 'brand', so to say. The accent falls on 'aggressively'.
Anyone who desires to support their family, maintain and advance their
career or business, and have some nice things to share,
will self promote, both aggressively, and accurately. Those lacking the
accuracy bit will be culled when they apply for work with slack hands,
or shortly after having been hired. And the marketplace will deal swiftly
with inferior products, in any sector, and at any price point.

The civiilzed world is full of self-entitled drones, welfare parasites,
and neurotic snowflakes that fail to comprehend the blood and treasure
that secure a nations ability to develope electricity, plumbing, agriculture,
and transportation, while preserving both national and local security.
A businessman will employ accurate aggression, which is the foundation
of society, business, family, and self preservation.
Cheers
This is utter bullshit.
The self promotion thing is a millenial thing and we were far better off without it.
Hey look at me at facebook holding a coctail, taking selfies at a disaster scene smiling at the camera in a place where e.g. people burned alive; hell the mere concept of a selfie stick was an impossibility in the past. So were selfpromoting arseholes like Trump that lie about a hundred times a day having even a shot at becoming president. He would be taken off the stage, tarred and feathered.

No, we are far better off without all this self promotion and I must say sometimes the selfpromotion of certain individuals here gets to me as well.

And that has nothing to do with providing commodities like electricity, food etc we take for granted.
The people that provide it and do the labour are mainly working in the shadows while the selfpromoting managers take the glory.

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Architeuthis
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2986 posts since 28 Jan, 2006 from Phoenix, AZ

Re: Are filters what make the sound of a synth stand out from the crowd?

Post Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:15 pm

Urs wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:55 am
enCiphered wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:48 am
There is a lot of discussion about filters lately and I wonder if high quality filters are the most important component that make the sound of a software or hardware synth so special and popular.
Great filters can not make up for mediocre oscillators.
Yes it can. Please follow my thread: Filters of Mass Destruction - audio demos

I don't do analog modelling for my filter algorithms. I do imitative synthesis. No one has described my method, so I believe I am discovering something revolutionary.
Edit: Weeelll, maybe not revolutionary, just a different way of going about it, a way that lacks intelligence / is completely based on random inspiration and discovery.
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Touch The Universe
KVRAF
3466 posts since 2 Oct, 2008

Re: Are filters what make the sound of a synth stand out from the crowd?

Post Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:17 pm

It's everything. If any piece isn't top notch, it won't get a solid reputation.

Sylenth, spire, massive etc aren't famous cause their filters rock, or the oscillators, it's the entire package and how they mesh and interplay with each other. It also doesn't hurt to have good workflow, which indirectly encourages attention from sound designers which increases the marketing and the amount of nice sounds for it.
High Quality Soundsets for Lush-101 | Hive | Electra 2 | Diversion | Halion | Largo | Rapid | Dune II | Thorn | and Spire.
http://www.touch-the-universe.com/

punkfest2000
KVRist
101 posts since 13 Sep, 2005

Re: Are filters what make the sound of a synth stand out from the crowd?

Post Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:32 pm

Stefken wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:51 pm
glokraw wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:39 am
perfumer wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:53 am
Look Urs, I've been reading your posts for 10+ years, and know very well how aggressively you're self-promoting, and defending your 'brand', so to say. The accent falls on 'aggressively'.
Anyone who desires to support their family, maintain and advance their
career or business, and have some nice things to share,
will self promote, both aggressively, and accurately. Those lacking the
accuracy bit will be culled when they apply for work with slack hands,
or shortly after having been hired. And the marketplace will deal swiftly
with inferior products, in any sector, and at any price point.

The civiilzed world is full of self-entitled drones, welfare parasites,
and neurotic snowflakes that fail to comprehend the blood and treasure
that secure a nations ability to develope electricity, plumbing, agriculture,
and transportation, while preserving both national and local security.
A businessman will employ accurate aggression, which is the foundation
of society, business, family, and self preservation.
Cheers
This is utter bullshit.
The self promotion thing is a millenial thing and we were far better off without it.
Hey look at me at facebook holding a coctail, taking selfies at a disaster scene smiling at the camera in a place where e.g. people burned alive; hell the mere concept of a selfie stick was an impossibility in the past. So were selfpromoting arseholes like Trump that lie about a hundred times a day having even a shot at becoming president. He would be taken off the stage, tarred and feathered.

No, we are far better off without all this self promotion and I must say sometimes the selfpromotion of certain individuals here gets to me as well.

And that has nothing to do with providing commodities like electricity, food etc we take for granted.
The people that provide it and do the labour are mainly working in the shadows while the selfpromoting managers take the glory.

The in your face self promotion thing isn't just a millenial thing, it's a technology thing. It's human nature along with the advancement of technology - internet, social media, etc. Those Facebookers with the selfies are looking for attention. YouTuber's do all sorts of things to get hits to provide income. It's a very competitive world and you have to fight for what you want. You get up in the morning, style your hair and put on your clothes, you are self-promoting and competing. Technology has made it hard to avoid being exposed to it, but there's no going back.

In this thread, I'm happy to have a highly skilled and experienced developer talk about filters. I'd rather hear what he has to say than anybody else in here, and if there is any self-promotion attached it's for me to decide whether to listen to it or not (to filter it if you will). If other developers chimed in that would be great too.

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vurt
addled muppet weed
39548 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Are filters what make the sound of a synth stand out from the crowd?

Post Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:38 pm

:tu:


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vurt
addled muppet weed
39548 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Are filters what make the sound of a synth stand out from the crowd?

Post Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:47 pm

wagtunes wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:40 pm
I'm old and there's been self promotion since I can remember.
yeah, but are you so old you cant remember what you had for breakfast?
:hihi:

Elektronisch
KVRAF
2586 posts since 3 Feb, 2010

Re: Are filters what make the sound of a synth stand out from the crowd?

Post Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:57 pm

Cinebient wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:41 am
vurt wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:40 am
im high.
But high enough? Maybe get drunken on top :D :wink:
Do drugs instead. Meth is good for you. :clown:

Elektronisch
KVRAF
2586 posts since 3 Feb, 2010

Re: Are filters what make the sound of a synth stand out from the crowd?

Post Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:02 pm

Cinebient wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:39 am
wagtunes wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:35 am
Cinebient wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:33 am
And the 3 best filters are these here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PrvAImEP8E
You see what i did here :wink:
Some days I just want to cry. :cry:
Well, a stupid filter for KVR would be great but then we would not see 99% of the threads and posts (yes, me included of course).
We just should accept that we all are stupid here and bored. Otherwise no one can explain this nonsense here.
Yes, i am guilty too. But you are right. We should cry together a bit :cry: :cry: :cry:
Indeed this thread is already wrecked after a few posts.
I am on holiday and have nothing useful to do....what apologize have the others? :)
Well you just said life is too short and you are using your holidays on internet? :D

Come on there are sure more useful/interesting things to do πŸ˜€

Stefken
KVRian
770 posts since 9 Nov, 2016

Re: Are filters what make the sound of a synth stand out from the crowd?

Post Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:09 pm

wagtunes wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:40 pm
I'm old and there's been self promotion since I can remember.
I'm not that old.
But selfies at a disaster zone? The Trumps, Erdogans etc that wasn't there in the 80s. Life was a lot simpler yet better.
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