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[woggle]

I'd push for 100% midi stuff (and no audio routing back from the mixer), pushing architect to be the "reference midi fx vst". In my opinion, (and following also the old threads), Architect can excel as The Definitive Midi Mangler, , providing that the 1.0 release will have lots of presets to play with and good manual.. Mixing midi, midi vst, audio vst in the graph could be too huge..

Well said

I agree fully, but if there is a non-problematic way to allow pure Midi plugins in the graph, I personally would love that. I personally have no need for audio in Architect.

Cheers,

Tom

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[nilhartman]

I personally have no need for audio in Architect.

Me too... but the ability to playback audio files in Play and Timeline modes could be quite convenient though.

[colin@loomer]

ALso please colin , let us use the mouse pointer to move along the structure view ( ctrl +drag ) etc
Don't wait till architect reaches version 6.0 to implement it , like N.I. did with reaktor

Very popular request, so I'll into getting that added sooner rather than later. Maybe this week, if that's possible. And I've noted your other issues too, and will take a look at them.

Could it also be possible to make the toggle button momentary

There is a momentary button module, which I'm assuming does what you need?

[zarf]

Me too... but the ability to playback audio files in Play and Timeline modes could be quite convenient though.

What would you folks say are the best options for doing this with a plugin? (Of course any vst sampler would enable this, and I'm also wondering if there are any good 'wav player' vsts that could meet this need?)
[fwiw I am with those who wish to see Architect 100% midi only]

[gentleclockdivider]

I said it right from the beginning , it won't take long before people will start ask for audio tracks ,and then what ?
They will ask for editing tools , crossfades , slip editing , folder tracks etc...and it will eventually steer architect away from it's primairy GOAL : a modular midi environment .
Let's keep this beauty slick and fast

[nilhartman]

Ok, let's put it differently : from my experience using Numerology, I've often wished I could just freeze a track or two to audio to free some CPU. Nothing more. Hence my last post.

[zarf]

I said it right from the beginning , it won't take long before people will start ask for audio tracks ,and then what ?
They will ask for editing tools , crossfades , slip editing , folder tracks etc...and it will eventually steer architect away from it's primairy GOAL : a modular midi environment .
Let's keep this beauty slick and fast

Absolutely agree. Do you view having midi-only fx in the graph contrary to a slick and fast modular midi environment? (I didn't, but Colin's earlier post about efficiency, accurate timing and feedback gave me pause for thought. Those features are all more important - sure - but if we could have *midi only* vst in the graph too without compromising those values - is that not a desirable thing for all?)
Audio tracks, editing tools - nah, use a normal DAW, wrong party, imho
Freezing audio tracks - now that is an interesting question! Why not?... stick them in the audio pool, I think I understand where nilhartman is coming from there...

[Kalamata Kid]

When people here say midi only for Architect are they excluding VST midi fx? these have a midi in and mid out. A clarification will be welcome.

[Kalamata Kid]

I understand that many of you here are more advanced than me in the details of Architect and am trying to take that into account. But is is also good to get the point of view of someone that wants a easy work flow, less workarounds and possible more features.

I use Bidule and thus I am wanting a Bidule like features but with extensive midi capabilities. If I only had a glimpse of the patches and what they can do I may have a different view of what Architect should be.

So some of these issues can be addressed by a work around in conjunction with Bidule or other similar modular environment plugin. But for the most part I do not like workarounds but if necessity calls then I comply. So perhaps it is not so bad to run one or more Architects' inside Bidule.

For the record I am still in for Architect for what is can do but also to some degree by the constant participation of Colin and enthusiasm of the fans.

[ThomasHelzle]

Me too... but the ability to playback audio files in Play and Timeline modes could be quite convenient though.

What would you folks say are the best options for doing this with a plugin? (Of course any vst sampler would enable this, and I'm also wondering if there are any good 'wav player' vsts that could meet this need?)
[fwiw I am with those who wish to see Architect 100% midi only]

Image Line Edison is a full audio editor that also is a VST that you can use as a player. It has the usual quirky IL GUI, but is very capable since it records and plays back both as well as having a lot of editing capabilities.
tc_stretch https://tonecarver.wordpress.com/tcstretch/ doesn't record, but can play back any audio you drop on it in any speed - which is it's main function, very slow speed if you want, similar to paulstretch.
There are more but those are the two I use most.

Cheers,

Tom

[ThomasHelzle]

Ok, let's put it differently : from my experience using Numerology, I've often wished I could just freeze a track or two to audio to free some CPU. Nothing more. Hence my last post.

Do that in your DAW.
For instance in Bitwig, you can just bounce the track with Architect on it or even just a part of it - Bitwig has hybrid tracks that can hold audio and midi both, so you can just bounce a certain timerange to audio if you want.
I just don't want another DAW, I have a wonderful one already that does everything I need, minus advanced midi mangling and generative things (it does that too, but not as deep as Architect).
Hopefully Architect will keep to what makes it special...

Cheers,

Tom

Edit: I find the idea above about freezing a track to the audio pool interesting. That doesn't compromise what Architect is all about but allows to then put that audio into a plugin audio player on a track. Such a player could even be part of Architect if Colin should ever feel bored

[gentleclockdivider]

Think I found another bug .
performance parameter ( which is expressed in percentages ) is multiplied by 4 , the mulitplication is called by a metro objec.
The output of the multiplication is going into a data switch(outputs 0,1,2,3) which triggers 4 arrays ( 0,1,2,3,) ...defining triggers on/off in a seq
Buenos , so whenever I turn the perfomance meter knob , the output will only be send when the metro triggers it .
Now when moving the performance parameter from zero to hundred percent ( the console clearly shows 4 ) , the metro is not triggering the mulitplication because the switch only goes up to 3 and 4 obviously falls outside that range
The range between 0,75% and 100% gives us 3 , which should trigger the last array
Instead I have to set the performance parameter between 75 and 99 % percent .
When the muliplication is triggered by the performance para itself , there is no problem ..when going to full 100% , or 4

Here's the file

[gentleclockdivider]

Managed to bring down/crash architect >
Simple structure ..
Counter (feedback +1 ) going into modulo set to divider 4 , remainder is 0,1,2,3,0,1,2,3etc.. which controls a switch and triggers 4 arrays
Works perfectly , just for fun I set the modulo to thousand
Instant crash

CRash is easy to reproduce , Press play and type a value of 1 in the modulo field , press enter , insert 1000
Enter
crash
p.s. I know 1000 doesn't make sense

here's the file

[colin@loomer]

Thanks guys. I'm absolutely listening to ideas for where Architect could go in the future. My goals for the moment are to get things to version 1.0 - a stable product with good documentation and an extensive user library. After that, I have a loose roadmap for versions up to maybe 1.3 or 1.4, which will be largely adding back the things I pulled late in the pre-release beta days. Once we hit that milestone, I think I (and all of you) will be better placed to know what Architect can and cannot do, whether deficiencies are actually deficiencies, and the best way of addressing these in future builds.

[colin@loomer]

Think I found another bug. (x2)

Great, thanks. I'll take a look at these today.