Access Virus snow VST replacement.

[recursive one]

A quick test: Virus hypersaw (fisrt) vs Viper hypersaw (second). No additional processing, just direct sound of both synths.

https://soundcloud.com/recursion-loop/v ... w-test-dry

The patch settings are almost the same but they do sound a bit different. Though I wouldn't call this a day and night difference.

And this is the same thing with external delay and reverb (the same send effects for both) Just because most trance-related Virus demos are drenched in reverb

https://soundcloud.com/recursion-loop/v ... w-test-wet

Actually the reverb and delay and Viper don't really sound like reverb and delay in Virus and that's imo the biggest difference between them.

EDIT: I've just reuploaded the files. The Viper patch had one parameter set wrong. They sound much closer now, sorry

[Chemik]

You would have to be almost deliberately biased to call those two back to backs that different. The average listener wouldn't be able to tell any difference at all. Buried in a song with 10 other sounds and it becomes even more ludicrous. Viper is an awesome piece of work for what it was trying to do.

[xbitz]

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[adamszabo]

One more:

[Jorgeelalto]

What i always hear is a organic sound i usually only hear from analog synths.

Spoiler alert: The virus is not an analog synth. Its a digital synth in a fancy box. Its the same code that would run on a computer but instead it runs on motorola dsp chips.

That's exactly what I think gives the Virus its character. I think the way of programming those chips and their inner functionality is significantly different for DSP processes and maybe there are some subtle things that happen on those chips that you cannot replicate easily (and without too much study time) on current software... (Maybe I'm as wrong as I can be though)

[recursive one]

What i always hear is a organic sound i usually only hear from analog synths.

Spoiler alert: The virus is not an analog synth. Its a digital synth in a fancy box. Its the same code that would run on a computer but instead it runs on motorola dsp chips.

That's exactly what I think gives the Virus its character. I think the way of programming those chips and their inner functionality is significantly different for DSP processes and maybe there are some subtle things that happen on those chips that you cannot replicate easily (and without too much study time) on current software... (Maybe I'm as wrong as I can be though)

Exactly! You should also take into account that Virus TI2 has a dark front panel, so it heats a lot when it's sunny, while Virus Snow is white. Therefore every Virus owner knows that Virus Snow sounds notably colder than Virus TI2, and the difference in their sound is most apparent at summer. No emulation can ever factor this.

[PietW.]

In my opinion its dune 3 with the TI waves installed. That's what I use.

I have converted the wavetables of the virus TI for Dune3. These wavetables do not make a virus out of it.

[chk071]

What i always hear is a organic sound i usually only hear from analog synths.

Spoiler alert: The virus is not an analog synth. Its a digital synth in a fancy box. Its the same code that would run on a computer but instead it runs on motorola dsp chips.

That's exactly what I think gives the Virus its character. I think the way of programming those chips and their inner functionality is significantly different for DSP processes and maybe there are some subtle things that happen on those chips that you cannot replicate easily (and without too much study time) on current software... (Maybe I'm as wrong as I can be though)

The DA converters of the Virus already will give you a different sound as if you'd run it via USB audio over your computer. That's also why the Novation K- and V-Station sound a bit different, even though it is basically the same code (according to Novation).

That's why most older VA synth give you that nice, muffled sound, while every plugin which comes out nowadays sound crystal clear, crisp… and somewhat boring. Let's bring back the muffled and aliased synths of yesteryear.

[recursive one]

The DA converters of the Virus already will give you a different sound as if you'd run it via USB audio over your computer. That's also why the Novation K- and V-Station sound a bit different, even though it is basically the same code (according to Novation).

All the comparisons (including mine) were made using Virus USB output.

I think all they all show essentially the same thing - Viper and Virus do sound very slighlty different but it's not the kind of difference that would matter anything or even be noticeable in an actual mix.

(it also seems that in teh videos posted by xbitz the reviewer had some minor differences in Viper and Virus patch structure, like the "character" was turned off in Viper and on in Virus, etc)

[Glyn Darby]

Hi all,
Firstly thanks for all your reply’s and suggestions for various synths to try, tried them all plus Ana2 over the last couple of days and they were all very impressive in there own way. As an out and out replacement for my snow as most have said it would be hard to pin it on any one of them exactly but as a replacement for it I have opted for the Uhe Hive. I liked the overall sound of it, the layout and a good price with it’s present offer. I have downloaded loads of wavetables from the net this evening and had a small muck about with the Virus wavetables and created some great patches with it already.

Cheers,
Glyn.

[zerocrossing]

In my opinion its dune 3 with the TI waves installed. That's what I use.

I have converted the wavetables of the virus TI for Dune3. These wavetables do not make a virus out of it.

It makes it better.

[cytospur]

In my opinion its dune 3 with the TI waves installed. That's what I use.

I have converted the wavetables of the virus TI for Dune3. These wavetables do not make a virus out of it.

It makes it better.

Nicely done (both of you) !

[cytospur]

PietW, would it be ok to create DUNE2 versions? I can do it myself if you're ok with that.

[fsciarra62]

You should definitely check the new Hive with wavetables. Probably Zebra2 and ZebraHZ (The Dark Zebra), which has a filter with rich “analog” character, can perform the rich tones of Virus. Actually even Bazille might be flexible enough. To be honest all the U-he synths I have bought or try, have very capable sonic character... But I can’t sell my VirusTI2 keyboard... I’m totally infected... I just come back from a rehearsal and honestly to play “The show must go on” with the Virus + my Kurzweil Pc3k7 is an emotion for the whole band each time.
Hope this helps...
Fabrizio

[fsciarra62]

Ehm... Glyn...
I apologize. I missed your reply that you have already got Hive: good choice for me...
I’ve complemented with Presswerk and ColourCopy as effects... Presswerk is not only a compressor and ColourCopy has many flavours to taste.
Try them...
Best regards and sorry again.
Fabrizio