Multi tap delays
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 468 posts since 11 Aug, 2005 from Canada
Hey guys, I was all set to buy Intellijel's Rainmaker euro rack module, surely one of the most amazing delays around, until I figured out that buying that for around $850 canadian, also meant spending at least another 4-700 on a power supply and rack case. At that point, sobered up and looked into software alterantives. I've found 3 or 4 that look good, but I want at least 6 or more taps with the ability to be able to program pitch changes for the delayed sounds. Rob Papen's RP Delay looks good, Eventide's Ultratap,Ohmboyz looks interesting as does Sandman Pro.
- KVRian
- 665 posts since 1 Jan, 2018
Melda's MTurboDelay has a multi-tap algorithm with pitch shifting, so definitely have a look at that one.
RP-Delay is multi-tap, but I don't believe it does pitch-shifting. On the other hand, Sandman Pro will do pitch shifting in the feedback loop, but it's not really a multi-tap delay, unless you consider using the left and right delay lines independently to be two (mono) taps. Of the ones you mentioned, Eventide Ultratap and Ohmboyz Infinity might be closer to what you want, but I have no experience with either of those, so I can't really make a recommendation.
Also, even though it doesn't have pitch shifting (just the usual volume, panning and filter parameters per tap), D16 Tekturon is probably the most straightforward and useful multi-tap delay I've found. I would say it's at least worth checking out.
RP-Delay is multi-tap, but I don't believe it does pitch-shifting. On the other hand, Sandman Pro will do pitch shifting in the feedback loop, but it's not really a multi-tap delay, unless you consider using the left and right delay lines independently to be two (mono) taps. Of the ones you mentioned, Eventide Ultratap and Ohmboyz Infinity might be closer to what you want, but I have no experience with either of those, so I can't really make a recommendation.
Also, even though it doesn't have pitch shifting (just the usual volume, panning and filter parameters per tap), D16 Tekturon is probably the most straightforward and useful multi-tap delay I've found. I would say it's at least worth checking out.
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- KVRian
- 826 posts since 25 Aug, 2006
Blue Cat's Late Replies. That would be a tough one to outgrow.
https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/P ... teReplies/
https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/P ... teReplies/
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Mister Natural Mister Natural https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164174
- KVRAF
- 2834 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan
you could also demo SonicCharge EchoBode - I know it does the pitch-shifting like crazy, not certain of your "multi" requirements
I'm also successfully using Valhalla UberMod for sexy delays/modulations
I'm also successfully using Valhalla UberMod for sexy delays/modulations
expert only on what it feels like to be me
https://soundcloud.com/mrnatural-1/tracks
https://soundcloud.com/mrnatural-1/tracks
- KVRAF
- 1672 posts since 3 Aug, 2017 from San Diego, CA
+1Steve Bolivar wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:18 am Blue Cat's Late Replies. That would be a tough one to outgrow.
https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/P ... teReplies/
Sounds incredible and it can be as simply flexible or as multi-fathom deep as one could ever want.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 468 posts since 11 Aug, 2005 from Canada
I checked it out and it does look and sound cool, but it only does Bode frequency shifting, while a great feature in itself, is not quite what I want, which is actual pitch shifting.Mister Natural wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:57 am you could also demo SonicCharge EchoBode - I know it does the pitch-shifting like crazy, not certain of your "multi" requirement
Thanks for all the suggestions and when I decide, will let you know here what I went with. I also already have MFM 2 which is amazing but only allows for 2 pitch shifts from the 4 taps.
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- KVRAF
- 2466 posts since 15 Apr, 2004 from Capital City, UK
Eventide Octavox? It's got 8 pitch-detecting delay lines and can pitch with key constraints.
https://www.eventideaudio.com/products/ ... ft/octavox
https://www.eventideaudio.com/products/ ... ft/octavox
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- KVRAF
- 2833 posts since 12 May, 2004 from Oxford, UK
There is also PSPs 608MD. Unlike the Ultratap (which I also have) it allows control over the individual delays, panning, filtering, timing etc. I have it for sale at the moment
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=505911
Waves also do one I think, I have it but haven't used it.
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=505911
Waves also do one I think, I have it but haven't used it.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 468 posts since 11 Aug, 2005 from Canada
As of now, I am leaning towards the Blue Cat which looks incredible on so many levels. I just downloaded the demo and am just fooling around so far, but man, this thing is a monster in terms of flexibility, complete and complex architecture, and does the pitch shifting as well as a step sequencer. Then being to put effects on top of a single tap, or pre and post delay, plus being able to also edit those effects makes this thing look almost incomparable to anything I have looked at or heard. What a marvellous piece of programming and the Rainmaker is out of the picture for sure now saving me around $1000 Canadian probably.
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- KVRAF
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
Have you looked at U-He MFM2?
https://u-he.com/products/mfm2/
Edit: Only 4 taps, so probably not what you want.
https://u-he.com/products/mfm2/
Edit: Only 4 taps, so probably not what you want.
CLAP Software Database: https://clapdb.tech. KVR Discussion Topic.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 468 posts since 11 Aug, 2005 from Canada
Thanks teilo, but already own it along with a lot of other U-he stuff, one of my fave companies actually, and not just because they make great things.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 468 posts since 11 Aug, 2005 from Canada
So the plunge was taken, and Blue Cat's Late Replies it is. While there also downloaded their really nice free pack to add to the arsenal. Nice looking and great sounding for basic effects one uses all the time Also admire how they incorporate one being able to use other effects inside of their delay. Nice touch. I'm also amazed at how great the reverbs in this. Highly recommended and think its expense is easily justified given how amazing it is and sounds.
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- KVRAF
- 16151 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
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- KVRAF
- 4584 posts since 21 Sep, 2005
Lusting after that 'Late Replies'.
Maybe some day.
The King is PSPs 608MD
Got the Waves SuperTap
https://www.waves.com/plugins/supertap? ... gKtBPD_BwE
I find myself in some kind of Delay Insanity. Maybe you do too?
Taps can be awkward.
If you like tapping it though, check out the old Audio Damage https://www.musicradar.com/reviews/tech ... het-147321
They don't make it no more. Don't sell it no more.
Tapping when tapping was good.
I miss the old tapping.
Maybe some day.
The King is PSPs 608MD
Got the Waves SuperTap
https://www.waves.com/plugins/supertap? ... gKtBPD_BwE
I find myself in some kind of Delay Insanity. Maybe you do too?
Taps can be awkward.
If you like tapping it though, check out the old Audio Damage https://www.musicradar.com/reviews/tech ... het-147321
They don't make it no more. Don't sell it no more.
Tapping when tapping was good.
I miss the old tapping.
- KVRAF
- 1672 posts since 3 Aug, 2017 from San Diego, CA
Good choice.rockmachine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:53 pm So the plunge was taken, and Blue Cat's Late Replies it is. While there also downloaded their really nice free pack to add to the arsenal. Nice looking and great sounding for basic effects one uses all the time Also admire how they incorporate one being able to use other effects inside of their delay. Nice touch. I'm also amazed at how great the reverbs in this. Highly recommended and think its expense is easily justified given how amazing it is and sounds.
Come join the Blue Cat subforum sometime. We're friendly over there.