Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?

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Schtu
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6 posts since 1 Feb, 2019

Post Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:20 am

Pictus wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:25 am

Use https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
If you plan to use all 8 cores at 4.7 GHz also set the voltage to 1.3v in the calculator.
(But the CPU may only need +- 1.23 for 4.7GHz on all cores)

With the watts value from outervision, look at the PSU review for the efficiency curve
This is very interesting, thanks! I used the calculator and got a load Wattage of 222W, which seems crazy low.

One thing I noticed when comparing the 550, 650, 750 and 850 version of the RMX is that the fan seems to only kick in at much higher Watts with the 650x. So at my load wattage the 650x would be silent, whereas the others wouldn't.

Not sure if that's a good thing or not though, as surely the fan not kicking in means my system would be hotter?

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Pictus
KVRist
180 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil

Re: Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?

Post Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:35 am

Kalamata Kid wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:31 pm
Thanks Pictus,
You are welcome.
Very informative. A bit complex so I may just stick with using the extra 64GB SSD for the paging file.
Any advice on how to set up the partition?
No, just create the partition and format it to NTFS.

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Pictus
KVRist
180 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil

Re: Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?

Post Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:03 am

Schtu wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:20 am
This is very interesting, thanks! I used the calculator and got a load Wattage of 222W, which seems crazy low.

One thing I noticed when comparing the 550, 650, 750 and 850 version of the RMX is that the fan seems to only kick in at much higher Watts with the 650x. So at my load wattage the 650x would be silent, whereas the others wouldn't.

Not sure if that's a good thing or not though, as surely the fan not kicking in means my system would be hotter?
I am glad to help.
It is a good thing, the system will be quieter.
Your system will not be hotter, the PSU get air from the bottom outside
and throw the hot air to the back of the case.
The case fans is what you have to set properly.
https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3 ... -mid-tower

https://youtu.be/sh6F2eccMec

Schtu
KVRer
6 posts since 1 Feb, 2019

Re: Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?

Post Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:37 am

Pictus wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:03 am

I am glad to help.
It is a good thing, the system will be quieter.
Your system will not be hotter, the PSU get air from the bottom outside
and throw the hot air to the back of the case.
The case fans is what you have to set properly.
https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3 ... -mid-tower
Great, thanks!

cleverr1
KVRist
294 posts since 29 Nov, 2005

Re: Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?

Post Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:48 am

Kaine wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:17 am
BananaJoe wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:02 pm
Regarding everything else, most software have limits on how many cores they can use or are not optimized as you said. Cubase for example is limited in 12 or 14 cores, i don't remember well. If you have more Cores than that Cubase will not make use of the extra ones. Having a 128 cores quad Xeon would be futile.
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Yeah, although to clarify Cubase is optimized up to about 32 threads (16 cores with hyperthreading) and then addressing starts to struggle once you move above it, but it doesn't go unused as the system can make use of extra threads in the background. Most if not all sequencers can handle up to about 28 or 32 threads these days without any stress, with a few running more with a bit of tweaking.
I took delivery of a 3xs TZ390 which I installed over the weekend. Initial tests with Cubase 10 showed equal load across all 16 logical processors.
OT I picked up a Magma 4 slot chassis on eBay which works perfectly with the pc running 3 TC Powercore PCI cards and a cardbus adapter running an RME cardbus multiface adapter. It’s great having a state of the art PC that can still run Access Virus on the PCI pocos.

Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
3552 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?

Post Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:55 pm

Best to disable i9-9900k "core parking" in the Registry?
If yes what is the best way to accomplish this?
23" 10-touch Monitor and iPad Air as Midi Controllers, iConnectMIDI2+, Windows Pro 10-64bit, i9-9900k, 32 GB RAM.

Kaine
KVRAF
1865 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester

Re: Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?

Post Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:44 am

It gets debated as to its effectiveness these days although I still occasionally get cases where it's had a positive outcome, so I still tend to run with it myself.

Manual edit of the reg string works for me when needed.
http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=273136

Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
3552 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?

Post Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:22 am

Kaine wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:44 am
It gets debated as to its effectiveness these days although I still occasionally get cases where it's had a positive outcome, so I still tend to run with it myself.

Manual edit of the reg string works for me when needed.
http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=273136
The link is form 2010. Does the info still apply?

So you run core parking enabled?
And this is what you recommend in 2019 on Windows 10 Pro, 64 bit.

Surprised no mention of core parking at Black Viper
http://www.blackviper.com/service-confi ... gurations/
23" 10-touch Monitor and iPad Air as Midi Controllers, iConnectMIDI2+, Windows Pro 10-64bit, i9-9900k, 32 GB RAM.

Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
3552 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?

Post Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:42 am

^
Apperently My i-9900k cores are not parked
Hack: How To Disable Windows CPU Core Parking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrvDVZg6C58
23" 10-touch Monitor and iPad Air as Midi Controllers, iConnectMIDI2+, Windows Pro 10-64bit, i9-9900k, 32 GB RAM.

Kaine
KVRAF
1865 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester

Re: Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?

Post Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:59 am

Kalamata Kid wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:22 am
The link is form 2010. Does the info still apply?
The reg key hasn't changed.
Kalamata Kid wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:22 am
So you run core parking enabled?
I do.
Kalamata Kid wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:22 am
And this is what you recommend in 2019 on Windows 10 Pro, 64 bit.
It's not as helpful as it used to be, but it still fixes some glitching issues I've seen in recent years.
Kalamata Kid wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:22 am
Surprised no mention of core parking at Black Viper
http://www.blackviper.com/service-confi ... gurations/
Wouldn't know, I've never been a fan of it. As someone who worked support for a decade, it's amazing how tired you get of people randomly applying tweaks they've seen online and then being all surprised and blaming you because they didn't understand the knock on effect that the tweak had on the rest of the system.

musiclover91
KVRer
18 posts since 7 Feb, 2016

Re: Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?

Post Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:59 am

Its not, honestly. but if you are sacrificing stuff like RAMs( 16 at least) and like SSD to get the I9, then please use a lower end stuff so that your rig balances out and not bottleneck:). You can PM me if you want. i built a PC rig and am very happy with it:)

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KVRist
180 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil

Re: Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?

Post Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:22 am

Kalamata Kid wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:42 am
^
Apperently My i-9900k cores are not parked
Hack: How To Disable Windows CPU Core Parking
Kaine wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:44 am
It gets debated as to its effectiveness these days although I still occasionally get cases where it's had a positive outcome, so I still tend to run with it myself.

Manual edit of the reg string works for me when needed.
http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=273136
Try Quick CPU
http://coderbag.com/product/quickcpu
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Kaine
KVRAF
1865 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester

Re: Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?

Post Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:55 am

I could rarely get "coreparking manager" to work properly in its past revisions, I found it easier to just write my own script to handle what I need and then packed it in with all the other power scheme tweaks I do to save some time when doing installs here.

That said, I'll check this out in it's new guise. It'll be handy if it's working properly now for some of the other guys here who want to be a bit more subtle with it.

cnt
KVRist
247 posts since 9 Mar, 2001

Re: Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?

Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:38 am

HM wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:54 am
Threadripper is for video ,.. not audio
Well, thats not true is it..? :)

Threadripper 1950x/2950x/2990wx kicks Intel 9900 on audio.. by FAR!
http://www.scanproaudio.info/wp-content ... P-Test.jpg
/ C'n'T
Hi People! I'm an addict. Music is my drug.

benjamind
KVRian
1047 posts since 4 Aug, 2004 from Ain't tellin' ya...

Re: Is the I9 9900K overkill for music production?

Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:56 am

cnt, that's pretty impressive by AMD. I look forward to the new Ryzen 12 and 16 core processors coming soon.
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