How on earth to make this bass sound
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- KVRAF
- 35410 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Yep... i absolutely feel the same.
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- KVRAF
- 4051 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
It is doable. I’ve been hired to make “exact sounds” for people before. Mostly for cover bands. That is why I asked. It is an interesting challenge, but the last 5% or so that really makes the sound “the sound” is a whole thing by itself. It doesn’t seem worth it unless you really want to use the exact sound in a cover or remix type situation. It is fun trying to figure out how sounds were made, however, I wouldn’t worry too much about getting it exactly the same unless there is a definite need. Most of the differences in “families of similar sounds” are nearly interchangeable. You can get it and probably with something as simple as synth 1 and free fx if you want to spend the time. It is definitely possible.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.
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- KVRian
- 629 posts since 15 Jun, 2017
Haha, so true. Well there are plenty of videos about these growly "Skrillex" type FM based basses. Like this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1zijI2LMAI
Your example probably has 1 layer that sounds like a lowpassed square or triangle (odd partials) where the root (first partial) is very prominent. In FM you get odd partials when carrier/modulator ratio is e.g. 1:2. And a second layer that does the growly high frequency content. So you'd probably need an algorithm with 2 carriers (outputs to AMP).
Not sure a 4 or 6 sine-only operator FM synth can do this (like DEXED). Maybe it needs non-sines as operators (like on OxeFM). Or you could try the masterfull multitool SURGE (which has a super versatile oscillator section and FM options).
These are all excellent free synths. Of course there are other synths that offer FM...
I have not actually tried to (re)create this sound yet....
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 17 posts since 21 Aug, 2008
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- Patchmeister
- 1772 posts since 3 Nov, 2010
huh?thompson wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:32 pm https://vocaroo.com/i/s18KorxQjj7n
^^^Here is my effort....pretty close I think....
I mean I like it but it's completely different than the sound in the original clip.
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- KVRAF
- 4051 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
Try a notch at the large peak in the mids. That will make it more crispy like the example.thompson wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:32 pm https://vocaroo.com/i/s18KorxQjj7n
^^^Here is my effort....pretty close I think....
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.
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- KVRian
- 629 posts since 15 Jun, 2017
Never really tried or used these types of basses. But got curious and had a look into how they are made. We allready established that FM is the basis. But only-sine FM (like DX7/DEXED) won't do. You do need other (richer) spectra as operators.
The video below is a short and helpfull one I guess. It's using "the ultimate FM synth"....FM8. I don't have FM8, but will see if SURGE (and/or even OxeFM) can do this. Maybe with some post processing (saturation/distortion).
Skrillex-style dubstep bass growls in FM8 (Computer Music issue #180)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35tbw510bmI
The video below is a short and helpfull one I guess. It's using "the ultimate FM synth"....FM8. I don't have FM8, but will see if SURGE (and/or even OxeFM) can do this. Maybe with some post processing (saturation/distortion).
Skrillex-style dubstep bass growls in FM8 (Computer Music issue #180)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35tbw510bmI
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 17 posts since 21 Aug, 2008
Haha I guess... it sounds a little closer when the lfo runs at 1/16CHOOS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:17 pmhuh?thompson wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:32 pm https://vocaroo.com/i/s18KorxQjj7n
^^^Here is my effort....pretty close I think....
I mean I like it but it's completely different than the sound in the original clip.
- KVRAF
- 8826 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
For me it sounds like a processed didjeridoo...