If I really took the time to learn all the software I have, including Komplete 11 stuff, orange tree guitars, reaper and renoise I don't think I'd really need either so it's tough to say.
I might be better served buying a bunch of vinyl for dirty sampling and scratching.
£500 VST Instrument Or £500 Keyboard Synthesizer / Controller ?
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Straight2Vinyl Straight2Vinyl https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=395170
- KVRist
- 336 posts since 10 Mar, 2017
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- 15959 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
I've downloaded and installed stuff without Native Access in the past. It's only last year, when I bought a Maschine Mikro, that I started using it and it's been great.
Even if you only have one product, you install Native Access instead of that product and then Native Access installs the product and authorises it for you. So from the get-go you are no worse off and after just one update you're actually ahead.
It doesn't run constantly in the background, you have to run it to check for updates, so it's not consuming system resources all the time or anything, it's just a really convenient way to check for updates and install any that are available.
It's something I first came across with Line 6, in 2005 or so, with Line 6 Monkey. I was initially skeptical but it turned out to be fantastic. I'm surprised it's taken the rest of the software world so long to catch on.
Whilst that is true, it is also true that it isn't any more hassle, either. It's surprising how often products are updated. Last week, for example, I had a new version of Maschine and Komplete Kontrol to install. Instead of having to go and find the installers on line, then download and install them separately, I just clicked "Update All", went and made dinner and by the time I was ready to get back to work, both products had been updated and were ready to go.
Even if you only have one product, you install Native Access instead of that product and then Native Access installs the product and authorises it for you. So from the get-go you are no worse off and after just one update you're actually ahead.
It doesn't run constantly in the background, you have to run it to check for updates, so it's not consuming system resources all the time or anything, it's just a really convenient way to check for updates and install any that are available.
It's something I first came across with Line 6, in 2005 or so, with Line 6 Monkey. I was initially skeptical but it turned out to be fantastic. I'm surprised it's taken the rest of the software world so long to catch on.
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- Banned
- 3889 posts since 3 Feb, 2010
Some people just dont want to believe no matter what. Even if you will show everything visualy and make a proof eventualy that kind of person will try to find any argument to use it as a disproval just because he doesnt want to believe 
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- Banned
- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
so i need to install extra software, then run it everyday just in case there is an update?
doesnt sound very convenient
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- Banned
- 3889 posts since 3 Feb, 2010
... Same convenient as checking plugin website every day if there is an update.
Look if your main goal is to have only plugin installed there is no reason to say managers are bad only because you dont like it, we tried to show you that they are good, because they are in NI case, but you have your argument for disproval, if it works for you, good, be happy
Im going to repeat myself
Case closed.Elektronisch wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:59 am Some people just dont want to believe no matter what. Even if you will show everything visualy and make a proof eventualy that kind of person will try to find any argument to use it as a disproval just because he doesnt want to believe
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- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
i dont, i get informed of updates, no effort at allElektronisch wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:01 am... Same convenient as checking plugin website every day if there is an update.
case closed
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- 3889 posts since 3 Feb, 2010
good for you manAnX wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:05 ami dont, i get informed of updates, no effort at allElektronisch wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:01 am... Same convenient as checking plugin website every day if there is an update.
case closed
You still have to download manualy, install, delete the installer.
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- KVRAF
- 2313 posts since 20 Oct, 2014
500 for the perfect master keyboard, providing golden keys and fatar keyboard, aftertouch, 2 exp. and switch pedal connectors, usb midi in/out/thru, 8 endless knobs, 8 (motor) faders, all with little text displays (bright displays), 8 drumpads, solid, workstation-grade X/Y-stick, touchslider, A and B button, very combat built not wasting a single centimeter, metal case or something very stable, no glossy look. Doesn't exist. Instead you'll get a cheap compromise always, numlocked in the 90s. So, buy software instead.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105855 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
AnX wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:05 ami dont, i get informed of updates, no effort at allElektronisch wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:01 am... Same convenient as checking plugin website every day if there is an update.
case closed
not that i care what you use or dont use, but ni tend to inform us of updates too.
they dont just secretly release them in the hopes you'll check.
it's not that big an issue tbh.
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VELLTONE MUSIC VELLTONE MUSIC https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=404834 - KVRAF
- 2076 posts since 19 Sep, 2017 from The Future
Rule what game? I can't think of a single reason to bother with a wavetable synth. Surer, I have a couple but I didn't buy 'em because they're wavetable synths, it's just what they happen to be.
Well if you are a home producer with a limited budget,you can buy few amazing wavetable vst synths and to produce any kind of music,that's the game:):)
Well if you are a home producer with a limited budget,you can buy few amazing wavetable vst synths and to produce any kind of music,that's the game
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- 15959 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
That's ridiculous. I don't need a wavetable synth to do that at all. In fact, if that's your situation, I'd suggest you'd be better off with a sample-based instrument or a ROMpler style thing. You'll get a far broader range of options than from any wavetable synth.
Do you check for updates every day on the software you already have installed? No, of course you don't, so stop being a dick.
And when that happens, you run Native Access and it's all taken care of. No need to navigate websites or even open your browser. better still, you can unsubscribe from all the company's emails so you don't get spammed. Case closed.
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no, as i said, i get informed of updates. Learn to read, dick
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- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
the link to the update is in the email, no hassle at all, and no bloat software required
case closed dick
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- KVRAF
- 3469 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from A Swede Living in Budapest
Damn that's hard, especially when Behringer is almost giving away their hardware synths.
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HARDWARE SAMPLER FANATIC - Akai S1100/S950/Z8 - Casio FZ20m - Emu Emax I - Ensoniq ASR10/EPS
HARDWARE SAMPLER FANATIC - Akai S1100/S950/Z8 - Casio FZ20m - Emu Emax I - Ensoniq ASR10/EPS
