Are Output products nontransferable?

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LoveEnigma18
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297 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:57 am

Sorry if this is not the correct place to ask this, but I was interested to know if (all) Output products are nontransferable.

As per the website terms, it says their products are nontransferable. However, I have seen people selling their Output licenses here, which led me to ask this question.

https://output.com/legal/eula
This license is nontransferable and expressly forbids resale or lease of the product.
Could anyone please confirm the fact?

Thank you!

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anxiousmofo
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Re: Are Output products nontransferable?

Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:13 pm

I think what you are seeing for sale is unregistered license keys. If it is Movement you are seeing, that is almost certainly the case.
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ATS
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6355 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA

Re: Are Output products nontransferable?

Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:47 pm

Hey I wrote them today and you can no longer transfer their products. Sorry for my bad info before but you used to be able to.
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LoveEnigma18
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Re: Are Output products nontransferable?

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:47 am

anxiousmofo wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:13 pm
I think what you are seeing for sale is unregistered license keys. If it is Movement you are seeing, that is almost certainly the case.
Thanks. Yeah, quite true about Movement.
ATS wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:47 pm
You can transfer them. You have to go through Output then NI. It's a pain but it can be done. Unless they changed it recently.
Thanks for the information. But it does not seem as straightforward and easy for Output products.

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martinjuenke
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Re: Are Output products nontransferable?

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:56 am

This restriction is the main reason for me not to buy their products...

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LoveEnigma18
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Re: Are Output products nontransferable?

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:18 am

martinjuenke wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:56 am
This restriction is the main reason for me not to buy their products...
Yeah, even I believe in doing the same. But I am tempted by a couple of products. However, it is at least sure that license transfer is not a smooth process for Output products.

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ATS
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6355 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA

Re: Are Output products nontransferable?

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:37 pm

Hey I wrote them today and you can no longer transfer their products. Sorry for my bad info before but you used to be able to.
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Rusty O'Hara
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48 posts since 18 Sep, 2004

Re: Are Output products nontransferable?

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:25 pm

anxiousmofo wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:13 pm
I think what you are seeing for sale is unregistered license keys. If it is Movement you are seeing, that is almost certainly the case.
Out of curiosity, as I've seen a lot of them for sale on Facebook / users offering multiple licenses… Did they give out a lot of Movement keys? Quick search says something out about Presonus interfaces.

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LoveEnigma18
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297 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Re: Are Output products nontransferable?

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:19 pm

ATS wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:37 pm
Hey I wrote them today and you can no longer transfer their products. Sorry for my bad info before but you used to be able to.
Okay, thank you for checking it with them. It sucks that they are non-transferable.

deejay2
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121 posts since 21 May, 2018

Re: Are Output products nontransferable?

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:35 pm

possibly you can take over whole account as others do if products are not transferable

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ATS
KVRAF
6355 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA

Re: Are Output products nontransferable?

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:54 pm

People did use to transfer them. I told them that was bait and switch to allow them then of all of a sudden stop allowing it.
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LoveEnigma18
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297 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Re: Are Output products nontransferable?

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:25 pm

Yeah, account take over is also a good idea.

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