Better RAM or SSD upgrade?

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ilwoody
KVRist
33 posts since 18 Mar, 2018

Post Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:33 am

Hello guys,

I have this configuration of a laptop to buy:

CPU
Processore Intel® Core™ i7 8750H 6 core (2,2 GHz, 4,1 GHz Turbo)
RAM
DDR4 SODIMM Corsair 2666 MHz 16 GB (2 x 8 GB)
SSD M.2
SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2 512GB, NVMe PCIe (up to 3500 MB/R, 3200 MB/W)

Now I have the chance for a small upgrade, and I can choose between either a
RAM
DDR4 SODIMM Corsair 2666 MHz 32 GB (2 x 16 GB)

or

SSD M.2
SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2 1TB, NVMe PCIe (up to 3500 MB/R, 3300 MB/W)

I'm an amateur producer, that will mainly play with VSTs, some effects, very hard to have more than 20 tracks at the same time (never had so far but who knows). Genre: soul, gospel, r'n'b.

Thank you for your insights!
Last edited by ilwoody on Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:53 am, edited 2 times in total.

fedexnman
KVRAF
2466 posts since 4 Jan, 2005

Re: Better RAM or SSD upgrade?

Post Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:28 pm

I'd go for the bigger SSD , 16gb ram is plenty .

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jancivil
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17945 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: Better RAM or SSD upgrade?

Post Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:00 pm

Can't know if 16GB is sufficient, it isn't for me. Some people need far, far more for what they do.
If you're not running out of RAM as it is, you don't, probably. The specs for the other SSD aren't apparent, but NVMe is significant if the other is say a SATA connection to the motherboard.

ilwoody
KVRist
33 posts since 18 Mar, 2018

Re: Better RAM or SSD upgrade?

Post Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:55 am

Forgot to mention that I already have a Samsung 1TB external SSD to add at this setup. So at this very moment, without any upgrade I have 512GB+1TB SSD. Thank you guys

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Apratim
KVRian
606 posts since 29 Dec, 2016 from India

Re: Better RAM or SSD upgrade?

Post Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:58 am

are you a kontakt user -- if yes
get a ram upgrade

if you are into audio clip manipulation inside your daw get a ssd
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sneer
KVRer
8 posts since 25 Mar, 2019

Re: Better RAM or SSD upgrade?

Post Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:36 am

If you already have external storage then go for another 16gigs ram

quickfingers100
KVRer
6 posts since 18 Feb, 2019

Re: Better RAM or SSD upgrade?

Post Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:34 pm

Hello there,

I first upgraded to 2tb SSD which sped up loading times etc.....but after 50 instances of different VST I hit my wall and maxed out memory. That was a 6700hq i7 processor. I've since gone for a Ryzen 7 build, 32gb ram and the same project is hitting 15% Cpu use and 60% Memory usage in Cubase 10 Pro. I added a few more instruments since then also.

As you have an SSD already, I'd take the RAM option.

Cheers

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jancivil
KVRAF
17945 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: Better RAM or SSD upgrade?

Post Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:26 pm

The thing that isn't being talked about is the connection for the SSD; if your other option, the one with more RAM is not NVMe PCIe, it's slower.

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BONES
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7850 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Re: Better RAM or SSD upgrade?

Post Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:10 pm

Except that it specifies in the original post that they are both the same, unless he has edited in response to your post.
jancivil wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:00 pm
Can't know if 16GB is sufficient, it isn't for me.
Is that because you have attempted to use something with 16GB of RAM and it wouldn't work or because you know you have sample sets that are larger than 16GB so you assume 16GB won't be enough? Because I'd be extremely surprised if 16GB wasn't enough for anyone to do anything they might ever need to. There is no 1:1 correlation between the two things, your OS and your plugins have systems in place to deal with this kind of stuff and I honestly cannot imagine a situation where those systems would fail you if you have 16GB of RAM installed, even if you are using several instances of an instrument that is using massive sample sets.
quickfingers100 wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:34 pm
I first upgraded to 2tb SSD which sped up loading times etc.....but after 50 instances of different VST I hit my wall and maxed out memory.
Can we hear some of this music that requires 50 VSTi, please? That's almost a whole symphony orchestra's worth of instruments but every instrument in an orchestra is monophonic, so if even a few of your VSTi are playing chords, 50 seems way over the top to me. Even our densest, most impenetrable songs only use 4 or 5 VSTi and a couple of tracks of vocals, with maybe a couple of other VSTi that only play in the break or intro or something. I honestly don't know how you would even mix 50 instruments and get a cohesive sound from it all, so I am genuinely curious to hear something like that.
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jancivil
KVRAF
17945 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: Better RAM or SSD upgrade?

Post Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:31 pm

"Genre: soul, gospel, r'n'b." and not more than 20 tracks... the only thing you're liable to run into with RAM is if you use say BFD3 with fairly massive kits, so I'm not seeing a pressing need for 32GB; and in my experience the NVMe makes for a snappier experience all round,

ilwoody
KVRist
33 posts since 18 Mar, 2018

Re: Better RAM or SSD upgrade?

Post Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:08 pm

jancivil wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:31 pm
"Genre: soul, gospel, r'n'b." and not more than 20 tracks... the only thing you're liable to run into with RAM is if you use say BFD3 with fairly massive kits, so I'm not seeing a pressing need for 32GB; and in my experience the NVMe makes for a snappier experience all round,
That actually make sense. Thanks for it

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