Compressor as sustainer

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gonzomaster
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48 posts since 29 Dec, 2011

Post Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:08 pm

I am looking for a compressor-plugin (freeware?) being able to sustain an incoming signal.
I want to sustain sounds/instruments which have a fast decay/short sustain (for exemple piano/acoustic guitar) because I want to use them with a wind controller (with midi CC breath control). It would be nice to change / influence the sound (for exemple get them louder) after the first attack.
I made some first attempts with compressors, but did not get it right. Sometimes, the first attack was way too loud, sometimes, the sustained part was distorted. If you have an idea which compressor (limiter?) to try (and perhaps some ideas about the settings...), that would be nice.

davidguda
KVRian
569 posts since 28 Feb, 2011 from Sweden

Re: Compressor as sustainer

Post Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:06 am

Which daw are you using? Ableton Live has "Glue compressor" built in which I think is excellent. Perhaps couple it with a limiter in serial. Where do you want to couple the breath control? Not sure how to do that, you could perhaps control a pre-gain or post-gain with it or something.
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gonzomaster
KVRist
48 posts since 29 Dec, 2011

Re: Compressor as sustainer

Post Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:39 am

I have Reaper as DAW and want to control the sound after the first attack. Post gain?

davidguda
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569 posts since 28 Feb, 2011 from Sweden

Re: Compressor as sustainer

Post Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:59 am

I'm not very well versed with reaper but yeah try it. The principles are the same across all DAWs.
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KVRian
802 posts since 15 Nov, 2005 from Italy

Re: Compressor as sustainer

Post Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:34 am

You can try our LDC-2 Compander, which also works as a sustainer
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bmanic
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8395 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo

Re: Compressor as sustainer

Post Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:17 am

Reaper has a built in JS effect called Transient Controller. There you can use the Sustain parameter to lengthen the sustain.
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768 posts since 24 Jul, 2018

Re: Compressor as sustainer

Post Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:31 am

You want a transient shaper then. There are a couple of really good ones one by Sonic Anomaly and another one by Auburn Sounds.
If you want to pay for extra feature then check out the one by KiloHearts it's add a sustain function to the transient shaping

gonzomaster
KVRist
48 posts since 29 Dec, 2011

Re: Compressor as sustainer

Post Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:14 am

"You can try our LDC-2 Compander, which also works as a sustainer"

Unfortunately, you can only use it in a demo-mode (which no possibility to try settings)...

"If you want to pay for extra feature then check out the one by KiloHearts it's add a sustain function to the transient shaping"

This is the best, I tried so far. The Reaper ReaComp is also not bad. (The Reaper JS Transient Controller does not work for my task).

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antic604
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2313 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: Compressor as sustainer

Post Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:19 am

Compressor or transient shaper will only get you so far (until there's some signal in the source to amplify it).

Perhaps a finely tuned reverb would be a better choice?
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Re: Compressor as sustainer

Post Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:27 am

Wait, if you're talking about this being controlled from a wind controller, then why dont you modify the patch in whatever synth/whatever is playing the sounds.
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gonzomaster
KVRist
48 posts since 29 Dec, 2011

Re: Compressor as sustainer

Post Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:37 am

I am only talking about synths and patches sounding great, but having a fast decay (without possibility to change that within the synth).

imrae
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657 posts since 2 Jul, 2010

Re: Compressor as sustainer

Post Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:33 am

Bring it into a sampler, add a looped sustain portion and use the envelope controls.

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Tj Shredder
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2469 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Re: Compressor as sustainer

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:20 am

gonzomaster wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:37 am
I am only talking about synths and patches sounding great, but having a fast decay (without possibility to change that within the synth).
Name a synth which does not have that possibility to change. I don‘t know any (and would not consider it being a synth either).

gonzomaster
KVRist
48 posts since 29 Dec, 2011

Re: Compressor as sustainer

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:49 pm

Ok, synth is perhaps the wrong word. Call it virtual instrument...

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