Are subscription models a cure for GAS?

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lajosuti
KVRist
97 posts since 25 Jan, 2014

Post Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:59 pm

The only good subscription model is the rent-to-own one. I rather prefer buying once and then they raise the version number of the plugin in every 2 years which requires another purchase.

jens
KVRAF
19351 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Re: Are subscription models a cure for GAS?

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:14 am

reggie1979 wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:35 pm

Add up all the slate models (assuming you would use them, I do) and then give them a 50% off sale.
lol... because that's what people would normally pay for those, right? Ever heard of a sales-technique that's called "bundles"?


Subscriptions suck.

nicksohn
KVRist
489 posts since 6 Dec, 2014

Re: Are subscription models a cure for GAS?

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:07 am

No. Nothing can cure the GAS.

Just face it, Buy something, and Be Happy.

Reefius
KVRian
603 posts since 7 Dec, 2013 from Belgium

Re: Are subscription models a cure for GAS?

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:30 am

GAS, buy, play, repeat :D
It never ends :P

PieBerger
KVRist
245 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London

Re: Are subscription models a cure for GAS?

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:52 am

After subbing to the Slate Bundle for a year, I realised that I have my bases covered with perpetual licenses, actually I probably have more than I really need. I don't plan to sign up to anymore subs, nor do I intend to purchase any more perpetual licenses, in fact I want to relieve myself of some. I'd say subs are a good cure for GAS :tu:
Always Read the Manual!

nicksohn
KVRist
489 posts since 6 Dec, 2014

Re: Are subscription models a cure for GAS?

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:09 am

PieBerger wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:52 am
After subbing to the Slate Bundle for a year, I realised that I have my bases covered with perpetual licenses, actually I probably have more than I really need. I don't plan to sign up to anymore subs, nor do I intend to purchase any more perpetual licenses, in fact I want to relieve myself of some. I'd say subs are a good cure for GAS :tu:
Nah. You just need some time. :D

PieBerger
KVRist
245 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London

Re: Are subscription models a cure for GAS?

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:52 am

nicksohn wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:09 am
PieBerger wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:52 am
After subbing to the Slate Bundle for a year, I realised that I have my bases covered with perpetual licenses, actually I probably have more than I really need. I don't plan to sign up to anymore subs, nor do I intend to purchase any more perpetual licenses, in fact I want to relieve myself of some. I'd say subs are a good cure for GAS :tu:
Nah. You just need some time. :D
:clap: :hihi:
Always Read the Manual!

rewrite history
Banned
117 posts since 13 Mar, 2019

Re: Are subscription models a cure for GAS?

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:25 am

Has anyone added up the cost of all their plugin purchases they've made over their lifetime?
It would be interesting to see some of the high numbers from people with large plugin counts.

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plexuss
KVRAF
2931 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Are subscription models a cure for GAS?

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:31 am

rewrite history wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:25 am
Has anyone added up the cost of all their plugin purchases they've made over their lifetime?
It would be interesting to see some of the high numbers from people with large plugin counts.
I've spent about $xxxxxx over the last 4-5 years. :phones:
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bmanic
KVRAF
8394 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo

Re: Are subscription models a cure for GAS?

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:56 am

rewrite history wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:25 am
Has anyone added up the cost of all their plugin purchases they've made over their lifetime?
It would be interesting to see some of the high numbers from people with large plugin counts.
Keep in mind that most plugins that were bought can also be sold. Yes you do lose quite a bit but never the less you can get some of the investment back.. which is not at all the case with subscriptions of course.

My main gripe with subscriptions is that it very quickly adds up to stupid amounts if you need tools from several different vendors.. and you then get stuck in a bad limbo situation where you can't easily get out of the deal without first sacrificing a lot of time and flexibility in rendering all results to audio so that you can return to projects.

A person who constantly buys every plugin is weird beast though.. perhaps subscriptions were indeed made for these whales?
"Wisdom is wisdom, regardless of the idiot who said it." -an idiot

heyheycnv
KVRist
75 posts since 13 Dec, 2016

Re: Are subscription models a cure for GAS?

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:22 am

I'd want in my subscription:
1. At least 80% of all of the plugins currently available
2. At least 90% of all new plugins would be available on release
3. Any plugin upgrades included
4. Ability to install/use all on 3 machines concurrently

I'd pay 23 bucks a month for that. If you can't give me that then...

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Spencer Maddox
KVRian
501 posts since 19 Oct, 2017 from a state of anxiety

Re: Are subscription models a cure for GAS?

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:24 am

heyheycnv wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:22 am
I'd want in my subscription:
1. At least 80% of all of the plugins currently available
2. At least 90% of all new plugins would be available on release
3. Any plugin upgrades included
4. Ability to install/use all on 3 machines concurrently

I'd pay 23 bucks a month for that. If you can't give me that then...
80% of the Plugins available, for a Company? or like...Just in general...?
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heyheycnv
KVRist
75 posts since 13 Dec, 2016

Re: Are subscription models a cure for GAS?

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:50 am

Spencer Maddox wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:24 am
heyheycnv wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:22 am
I'd want in my subscription:
1. At least 80% of all of the plugins currently available
2. At least 90% of all new plugins would be available on release
3. Any plugin upgrades included
4. Ability to install/use all on 3 machines concurrently

I'd pay 23 bucks a month for that. If you can't give me that then...
80% of the Plugins available, for a Company? or like...Just in general...?
In general. Like Spotify. I don't want to get tied to only one company. Nobody has that many great plugins.

Or if many developers want to band together into smaller subscription groups (ala Netflix,Hulu,Prime) and each charge 9.99 I'd test out a couple.

Until then...

mixtur.se
KVRist
56 posts since 24 Aug, 2017

Re: Are subscription models a cure for GAS?

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:54 am

reggie1979 wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:35 pm
Disagree. Some maths:

Add up all the slate models (assuming you would use them, I do) and then give them a 50% off sale.

Then add up subscriptions for let's say 10 years (which is absurdly liberal considering tech will change a lot in that time) and you'll get AT WORST about 1500 bucks (and I sure as hell have not paid 1-fiddy a year). Which is worse? See, maths ARE good.

It's financial suicide to pay for those plug separately. Yes, yes, if you don't use them they are worthless but I use them all the time so it's win.

The one that sucked was the MCDSP one that I did. You cannot suspend it, and the only plug I really like was the 6050 and it went on sale a week later for fiddy. :cry: :help: So I got hosed on that one.

The one for Studio One is cool too. I used it for about 4 months, decided I didn't want it anymore and canceled it. If I would have been in love with S1, I would have bought it here and then canceled it, so it was convenient.

Blank statements like "subscriptions suck" is pretty lame and you don't really have an argument financially. It really depends on the individual and prices.
The problem is that a lot of people would have to sign up several services to get what they need, and when you pay for a license it has a resell value most of the time so your maths doesn’t work out

felis
KVRian
509 posts since 25 Jul, 2009

Re: Are subscription models a cure for GAS?

Post Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:58 am

rewrite history wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:28 pm
The subscription model seems to be a perfect fit for those that tend to buy a lot of things on impulse.
....
Exact opposite. Are you sure you know what an impulse buy is?

Someone will get a subscription, and then go buy something on impulse - screwed twice.

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