I was invited to join the Steinberg development team as a beta tester on recommendation from an associate. Cool, I thought.
I received an email yesterday from Steinberg outlining all of their requirements for beta testers. As expected for such a large program, a lot of time is required for all the documentation, etc. The last requirement on the list was: "we expect that a new beta tester owns and has registered the last official version of the Steinberg product which he or she wants to beta test."
Say WHAT? They expect me to spend $500 on a copy of Cubase so I can test it for them? Apparently they think that beta testing their software and spending hours documenting it is a PRIVILEGE?
They already have paying customers providing feedback that is largely ignored. I guess you have to be a paying "beta tester" to have your comments heard.
Wow. Good luck, Steinberg. I switched from Cubase to another DAW a while back and now I'm even more convinced I made the right move.
The arrogance of Steinberg!
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- KVRAF
- 15263 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
So you expect you can become a beta tester out of nothing? Having lots of experience (and thus owning) the product, to me is not that odd as a requirement...
We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. 
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- KVRist
- 444 posts since 11 May, 2016 from Serbia
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- KVRist
- 381 posts since 12 Jul, 2006
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 9 Apr, 2017
Your topics are golden everytime 
Beta testing a daw in its 10th version with all its features is something different than beta test a plugin... Maybe your expectations are just a bit off 
Beta testing a daw in its 10th version with all its features is something different than beta test a plugin... Maybe your expectations are just a bit off -
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- 105800 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 23101 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Well yeah, it's arrogant. Other nicer devs hand out NFRs for beta testers.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 624 posts since 30 Aug, 2012
How much time do you think it would take to go through every feature and function in such a program? Do you think all that time should be donated to Steinberg for ZERO compensation - no discount version, no NFR version, nothing?BlueprintInc wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 4:08 pm Your topics are golden everytime
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 624 posts since 30 Aug, 2012
I used Cubase for 20 years up until about 6 months ago.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 624 posts since 30 Aug, 2012
I used Cubase for 20 years up until about 6 months ago. PLENTY of experience with it and other DAWs.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 624 posts since 30 Aug, 2012
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 624 posts since 30 Aug, 2012
What other topics are you referring to?
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- KVRAF
- 2023 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London
Not that big of a deal imo. You need to be an existing license owner to gain access to the Ableton Live beta program, hardly arrogant, just sensible business practice if you ask me.
Always Read the Manual!
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- KVRian
- 1324 posts since 15 Nov, 2005 from Italy
Steinberg doesn't hands out NFR neither for plugin developers. We were asked to download the demo of Cubase when we asked for an NFR copy for debugging.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 33159 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Yeah, they really should be giving out free full versions to random non-owners who fill in a form saying they'll do some testing, honest guv. Why on earth would they want their testing done by actual customers who have provably made a concrete investment in the product, who are likely to already know their way around it?
Its almost like they think beta testing should be actual testing by real-life users, rather than people looking to score some free swag.
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